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What's worse: using the race card or dismissing legitimate racism?

What's worse: using the race card or dismissing legitimate racism?

  • Society should mention race other than the human race because its proably a use of the race card.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • If racism exists in 2013, expose it in order to correct it seeking to make society better.

    Votes: 16 80.0%
  • Sorry, I don't have a dog in that fight. No position either way.

    Votes: 4 20.0%

  • Total voters
    20
The poll offers a false dichotomy because usually "playing the race card" is what is the racism, not that race card accusation. The most notable example recently was the George Zimmerman case.

Who I see as the worst and most common racism are those who look at everyone and every topic as racial issues and they cry racism if those involved aren't the same race. A racist is someone who looks at others foremost in racial terms and that is exactly what most race baiters do.

Thus how can I answer a poll since race baiting is real racism?
 
And what is behind THE RACE CARD that gives it power?

The media. Most people don't care anymore because it's been so trivialized and overused it's beaten into the ground.
 
What's worse: using the race card or dismissing legitimate racism?

Surely, you're familiar with the classic Æsop tale about the “The Boy Who Cried Wolf!’”, are you not?

Aside from simply being dishonest, the thing that is really bad about “playing the race card” is that we've reached the point where it is done so much that where a genuine instance of racism might be found, efforts to call it out will be disregarded. We're so used to hearing bogus cries of “Racism!”, that we will ignore any efforts to call out the rare genuine instances of racism.
 
The media. Most people don't care anymore because it's been so trivialized and overused it's beaten into the ground.

So the media created THE RACE CARD?
 
It's worse to create a culture where all assertions of racism are dismissed.

When you analyze how people behave in discussions on race and racism, you can often understand them better when you figure out who they identify with in whatever scenario is being described as racist. More often than not, a person of color is going to identify with the victim of the racism. They're going to recall similar events in their life or the lives of their loved ones when they hear about the situation. As a result, they're going to find the allegation believable or, at the very least, worthy of investigation. For example, many black people have been followed around stores by those who suspect them of wanting to steal. So, if a black person tells a story where a shopkeeper followed her around a store, but ignored white shoppers, the black listeners are likely to agree that racism was involved.

Now, when you look at the white (usually conservative) people who frequently dismiss allegations of racism as "playing the race card", you'll often find that they identify with the person or organization being accused of racism. They identify with the accused because, like people of color, they recall events in their lives or the lives of their loved ones that remind them of situation. However, in their recollections, they are not the victim of the racism, they or their loved one is the person being accused of racism in a way that they perceive as unjust. So, for them, the more pervasive - and thus greater - evil is being called a racist. Therefore, when they hear an allegation of racism, they're more likely to minimize or deny it because, in their perceived experience, allegations of racism are usually just some oversensitive liberals whining about nothing and misinterpreting things. (This is also why the same people are often racist as well - because they have no impetus to examine their prejudices. They just blame everyone else.)

For the record, there are also people of color who are reluctant to take allegations of racism seriously as well and that usually comes from internalized racism which breeds a desire to be accepted by the dominant culture, particularly people in the dominant culture who don't like "other black people" or "other Hispanics", etc..

Although written well I think it is inaccurate, or rather it is "off" on focus. It also is written from a racist perspective since it appears your view is that racism is only about and against "black people" and "Hispanics." This is very false.

There is a decisive different between claims that someone said something that is racist or in some analysis might be interpreted as being racist, and actual harmful acts of racism. People have tired of the cry of "racism!" because rather than it involves acts of racism but rather some extrapolated claim of racism based upon some psychological micro-analysis of what someone said - seeking to use the claim of racism the for beneficial agenda.

One valid definition of what constitutes "racism" and being a "racist" is that a person views others, evaluated others and evaluates events foremost in the context of the race of people. That, of course, is exactly what racebaiters do. They consider people and events in racial terms. In my opinion, it is racebaiters who are the greatest racism problem in the country and who most promotes and fosters racism.

Does racism exist? Certainly. Obama would not have won the Democratic primary over Clinton without the racism of African-Americans, the racism and sexism of Hispanics, and the sexism of Asians. Racism exists in many regards and forms.

The assertion of racebaiters is that racism is a matter of whites only being racist against non-whites, and nothing is further from the truth.

RACE-BAITING IS WORSE:
Race-baiting wrongly destroys people's reputation and careers.
Race-baiting inhibits free open speech.
Race-baiting has corrupted our political system.
Race-baiting leads to violence.
Race-baiting leads to riots.
Race-baiting urges people to evaluate others, what other's say and what other's do in racial terms.
Race-baiting perpetuals racism.
 
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I don't know, what other presidential candidate needed to be asked? I'm not a birther, but I understand what started the concern. Obama also hesitated in producing stuff, which didn't help.

He produced a birth certificate early on and it was checked. Then the birthers kept after that "long form" crap.

Seriously. Those who kept it up after the release of the initial birth certificate just looked like crap because this had never been done to a POTUS candidate to anywhere near this extent, ever. If this was a "usual" ploy, it wouldn't have looked so bad. Since it was the first black serious POTUS contender, frankly I cannot blame anyone who thinks racism.
 
He produced a birth certificate early on and it was checked. Then the birthers kept after that "long form" crap.

Seriously. Those who kept it up after the release of the initial birth certificate just looked like crap because this had never been done to a POTUS candidate to anywhere near this extent, ever. If this was a "usual" ploy, it wouldn't have looked so bad. Since it was the first black serious POTUS contender, frankly I cannot blame anyone who thinks racism.

Of course, people like you probably think that about many things.
 
Yeah, people that quickly throw out the race card, as YOU did.

You know, I did not even bat an eyelash until after Obama presented the birth certificate the first time. It was authenticated and I thought that was that. It wasn't until the cries for long form birth certificates along side the delving into his Indonesian schooling and all the Muslim stuff that it really stunk like a issue in bigotry. If that is "quickly" to you - that is your perception, not reality.
 
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You know, I did not even bat an eyelash until after Obama presented the birth certificate the first time. It was authenticated and I thought that was that. It wasn't until the cries for long form birth certificates along side the delving into his Indonesian schooling and all the Muslim stuff that it really stunk like a issue in bigotry. If that is "quickly" to you - that is your perception, not reality.

Yeah why should there be any suspicion of a guy that spends quite a bit of money concealing his past before actually revealing it. That is how people come to trust one another.
 
You know, I did not even bat an eyelash until after Obama presented the birth certificate the first time. It was authenticated and I thought that was that. It wasn't until the cries for long form birth certificates along side the delving into his Indonesian schooling and all the Muslim stuff that it really stunk like a issue in bigotry. If that is "quickly" to you - that is your perception, not reality.

Sure you did, the fact that his father was foreigner had nothing to do with what they looked at, it was purely his skin color. I've noticed progressives seem obsessed with race.
 
Sure you did, the fact that his father was foreigner had nothing to do with what they looked at, it was purely his skin color. I've noticed progressives seem obsessed with race.

Dude, Obama was and is American.
 
My question is what's worse: running the risk of someone using the race card where in essence false assertions of racism are made or creating a culture where all assertions of racism are dismissed including legitimate racism?

The first poll option should be "Society should NOT mention race..." Sorry.

Using the race card is worse. The reason being is it dilutes responses to real racism. It is very much akin to the story of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. Indeed using the race card can lead to the second half of your question.

People need to learn that just because race is mentioned it does not automatically equal racist/racism. Even if it is negative, provided the negative is provable and legitimate.
 
Since this was before I was born and wasn't there when he was, I don't know where Obama was born. I only know where I was born by hearsay records.
 
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