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    Re: Considering the ongoing threats of more contamination, should they be re-opend?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I have an anti-sitting in the dark and anti-big utility bills bias. Anything that solves those or balances them out, is fine with me.
    With that bias you should be well off...worst case scenario you get free light by just glowing in the dark yourself like a twilight vampire.

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    Re: Considering the ongoing threats of more contamination, should they be re-opend?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I admit to a pro nuclear bias because I have a better understanding of nuclear physics and the effects of these levels of radiation on people.
    Comfortable enough to go there yourself and "show the people" that there's no harm, before they are sent back to their cities ? Like, leading with example, for 6 months or so ? You could even help out cleaning up the plant during the day. Of course the trip would be all paid for, including a comfy allowance.

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    Re: Considering the ongoing threats of more contamination, should they be re-opend?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL So YOU know that there is no cancer risk from radioactive cesium. Were you also involved in this "test" in 1946? Maybe you even took this picture.
    I know that the cancer risk is very small from those.

    And a nuclear bomb is nothing like a nuclear accident like what is happening in Fukishima. The amounts of energy and radiactive particles released, plus radiation given off, are vastly different between the two events, with the nuclear bomb giving off much higher radiation levels.
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    Re: Considering the ongoing threats of more contamination, should they be re-opend?

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    With that bias you should be well off...worst case scenario you get free light by just glowing in the dark yourself like a twilight vampire.
    No. People do not glow from radiation. The worst case here would be a possibly slightly higher chance of girls being born, and even that is pushing it.
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    Re: Considering the ongoing threats of more contamination, should they be re-opend?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No. People do not glow from radiation. The worst case here would be a possibly slightly higher chance of girls being born, and even that is pushing it.
    Would the girls look like this is the question...


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    Re: Considering the ongoing threats of more contamination, should they be re-opend?

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    With that bias you should be well off...worst case scenario you get free light by just glowing in the dark yourself like a twilight vampire.
    Well I could always make lamp oil by rendering the fat from all the feral cats in my neighborhood if worst comes to worst.

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    Re: Considering the ongoing threats of more contamination, should they be re-opend?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    TBO.com | AP Wires

    Japan delaying cleanup of towns near nuclear plant
    "Radiation cleanup in some of the most contaminated towns around Fukushima's nuclear power plant is behind schedule, so some residents will have to wait a few more years before returning, Japanese officials said Monday. Environment Ministry officials said they are revising the cleanup schedule for six of 11 municipalities in an exclusion zone from which residents were evacuated after three reactors at the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant went into meltdown following the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami. The original plan called for completing all decontamination by next March."

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...TEMPLATE=TEPCO

    TEPCO doesn't have enough money to fix this.

    The Japanese public will be required to pay for this.

    Million and millions of gallons of radiated water stored in fragile tanks.

    Possible fission reaction ongoing in melted core/s revealed by cesium and other readings in leaking groundwater.

    Damaged fuel storage pool with thousands of fuel rods and susceptible to another earthquake or tidal wave.

    Should these towns be re-opened with the Fukushima meltdown still out of control?

    Should the exclusion zone be enlarged?

    Is the fuel rod threat in the storage pool enough threat to stop re-opening the towns?

    Are the melted fuel cores, especially the one that has melted through containment enough threat to stop re-opening the towns?

    Japan, a super high tech Nation, has asked for International help and who will be able to help?

    Radiation contaminated water in huge quantities seeps into the Pacific daily and does this worry you?

    All "Nuke" plants are on major waterways and does this worry you?

    Should all "Nuke" plants be made illegal?
    I went with IDK, as I do not know enough about the Fukushima situation.

    What I do think is relevant to the question of atomic power plants is the cost in lives and cash
    As far as I can tell, the price in lives has been much lower in the nuclear sector than with coal. The cash costs seem to be higher than with solar voltaic, if the new plant in UK is a realistic indication.

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    Re: Considering the ongoing threats of more contamination, should they be re-opend?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I went with IDK, as I do not know enough about the Fukushima situation.

    What I do think is relevant to the question of atomic power plants is the cost in lives and cash
    As far as I can tell, the price in lives has been much lower in the nuclear sector than with coal. The cash costs seem to be higher than with solar voltaic, if the new plant in UK is a realistic indication.
    If you go to the link provided, your education will be complete. In truth, it is not information you want to know. It is, however, a synoptic overview of Fukushima.

    Fukushima - A Global Threat That Requires a Global Response

    "The first thing that is needed is to end the media blackout. The global public needs to be informed about the issues the world faces from Fukushima. The impacts of Fukushima could affect almost everyone on the planet, so we all have a stake in the outcome. If the public is informed about this problem, the political will to resolve it will rapidly develop.

    The nuclear industry, which wants to continue to expand, fears Fukushima being widely discussed because it undermines their already weak economic potential. But, the profits of the nuclear industry are of minor concern compared to the risks of the triple Fukushima challenges.

    The second thing that must be faced is the incompetence of TEPCO. They are not capable of handling this triple complex crisis. TEPCO "is already Japan’s most distrusted firm" and has been exposed as "dangerously incompetent." A poll found that 91 percent of the Japanese public wants the government to intervene at Fukushima.

    Tepco’s management of the stricken power plant has been described as a comedy of errors. The constant stream of mistakes has been made worse by constant false denials and efforts to minimize major problems. Indeed the entire Fukushima catastrophe could have been avoided:

    "Tepco at first blamed the accident on ‘an unforeseen massive tsunami’ triggered by the Great East Japan Earthquake on March 11, 2011. Then it admitted it had in fact foreseen just such a scenario but hadn’t done anything about it.""

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    Re: Considering the ongoing threats of more contamination, should they be re-opend?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    If you go to the link provided, your education will be complete. In truth, it is not information you want to know. It is, however, a synoptic overview of Fukushima.

    Fukushima - A Global Threat That Requires a Global Response

    "The first thing that is needed is to end the media blackout. The global public needs to be informed about the issues the world faces from Fukushima. The impacts of Fukushima could affect almost everyone on the planet, so we all have a stake in the outcome. If the public is informed about this problem, the political will to resolve it will rapidly develop.

    The nuclear industry, which wants to continue to expand, fears Fukushima being widely discussed because it undermines their already weak economic potential. But, the profits of the nuclear industry are of minor concern compared to the risks of the triple Fukushima challenges.

    The second thing that must be faced is the incompetence of TEPCO. They are not capable of handling this triple complex crisis. TEPCO "is already Japan’s most distrusted firm" and has been exposed as "dangerously incompetent." A poll found that 91 percent of the Japanese public wants the government to intervene at Fukushima.

    Tepco’s management of the stricken power plant has been described as a comedy of errors. The constant stream of mistakes has been made worse by constant false denials and efforts to minimize major problems. Indeed the entire Fukushima catastrophe could have been avoided:

    "Tepco at first blamed the accident on ‘an unforeseen massive tsunami’ triggered by the Great East Japan Earthquake on March 11, 2011. Then it admitted it had in fact foreseen just such a scenario but hadn’t done anything about it.""
    Thanks for the link. I'll read it later in the day.

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    Re: Considering the ongoing threats of more contamination, should they be re-opend?

    I've been reading articles that describe the molten cores as "lost." That means they don't know if they are sitting on the lowest level breached floors or if they are burning into the Earth. There is no good side to this disaster. On the "good or bad" side, they begin unloading the fuel cores in the damaged pool storage this month. I pray that goes well because it is a job fraught with peril as the fuel rods or their support structure may be damaged. They can't be allowed to come in contact with one another or a radiation spewing fire will result. Thousands of fuel rods at Fukushima. The workers they are hiring are homeless and unemployed, not nuclear professionals.

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