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Right Wingers-What is the future of the Republican Party?

What is the future of the Republican Party?

  • The Tea Party and the GOP will officially become seperate.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • The GOP will remain as one, but be plauged by infighting.

    Votes: 11 57.9%

  • The Tea Party will eclipse the GOP and become the norm

    Votes: 1 5.3%

  • Other (Please explain)

    Votes: 4 21.1%

  • Cheeseburger apocalypse.

    Votes: 3 15.8%
  • Total voters
    19
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For our right leaning members/conservatives/Republicans on DP, what do you think is the future of the GOP? I tried to give some reasonable answers, but if you think something else will happen, please select other and explain.
 
I figure that there will remain some infighting over the next several years, and eventually, the democrats will run us into the ground financially. At that point, it's hard to say what will happen, but I would expect a resurgence of right-leaning policies once again. We politically swing back and forth, just like a big pendulum. What goes one way, will be balanced by a swing in the opposite direction.
 
I'm arguing for the decrease in prominence of the Tea Party, and the survival of the Republican Party. I see the name was a transitory name to potentially something more sustainable or it will fizzle out nearly entirely. Of course, my own preference is for more Hamiltonianism and less Jeffersonianism.
 
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. When elections come opposition to the statist tyrants will crystallize opposition and there will be a tenuous peace between republicans and conservatives. This will just be a side show however as non political voters coalesce behind support or opposition to the unaffordable insurance bill. If they oppose it, they will take it out on democrats.
 
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I'd be happy to respond to the OP, but do not feel froggy enough tonight to deal with the Uber-Liberal BS.

(Fiddy... we're pretty much in agreement)
 
Gradual slide into irrelevancy as the demographics become more diverse and the populace wises up.
 
"For our right leaning members" -

I am not sure I qualify (I think of myself as "right-wing", but most people around here will have hard time with "rightness" of someone who supports gay marriage, 'amnesty', drug decriminalization, and so forth), but for what it's worth.

The positive scenario: The tea party movement transforms the GOP into a classical liberal (moderate "libertarian") party; "socially conservative" statists and corporate welfare queens run away howling, most "fiscally conservative, socially liberal" independents run to join, cheering. Everyone lives happily ever after.

The negative scenario: The tea partiers, after making a few flashy symbolic gestures, get sidelined and diluted by the very same statists and queens, now claiming to be as tea-related as the hills of Ceylon. Riding the political momentum and general disaffection with Democratic policies, the faux-tea partiers squeeze out libertarians and sensible moderates, lure the "socially conservative, economically socialist" element away from the Dems, and dominate the political landscape. Darkness descends.

The most probable scenario: The tea partiers establish and successfully defend a small beachhead within the GOP. Now and again they are able to influence decision-making, but not too often - just like the Bible-thumpers, or the greens on the other side. The drift toward fiscal implosion and its unpredictable consequences continues, at a slightly lower speed.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
For our right leaning members/conservatives/Republicans on DP, what do you think is the future of the GOP? I tried to give some reasonable answers, but if you think something else will happen, please select other and explain.
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The far right wing of the Republican Party can't participate in the political process. Politics is all about compromise. Standing firm on your principles is considered noble in literature and too many people live in that fantasy land where they are the great hero. (The reason divorce is so much more common in my opinion.) The Tea Party has already gotten too big to be ignored or shut down. The Tea Party is too small to accomplish anything yet too big to be silenced. The Republicans will continue with their infighting for a long time. The Republican Party could be restored to a vibrant participant in the political process but it's at least 16 years away. I predict the democrats will keep the White House for at least 3 more elections. The Senate and the House remains up in the air. It can switch back and forth either way but Republicans will have little input for a pretty long while.

vasuderatorrent
 
Hopefully some of the Rinos get voted out?,,,,,especially McCain and King,,,,
 
Hiram said:
Hopefully some of the Rinos get voted out?,,,,,especially McCain and King,,,,
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What's a RINO in your opinion? Someone that doesn't vote with the party? Someone that doesn't vote with the party platform?

vasuderatorrent
 
I think the infighting will continue. There really isn't any difference in Republicans and Democrats these days other than the fact that they are fiscally irresponsible with different portions of our gov't. As long as this continues, there will still be a sect of the country that supports the Tea Party. However, the Tea Party can't survive without the money placing that (R) next to their name gets them. So they are kind of stuck together. Regardless of how much press the Tea Party gets it's still a grass roots, district by district movement that needs some sort of financial support. The Republican Party is the only group that can do that for them. In other words, we're screwed.
 
O and the left do not govern by the rule of law,,they break the Law to get what they want. O broke the law every time he changed the ACA,,,and he has done it several times with all the exemptions , "He has broken the very Law he stands on!, several times!

If the Law is broken without any punitive action to reverse it,,,has the system of Democracy not been perverted? Yes! The Grand Lady has been over weighted to one side,,,,,The rule of Law has been negated!

When the power balance is swayed so far to one side,,,expect an uprising. That uprising is the Tea Party. The Tea Party is the Balance against the Secular Socialist agenda!
 
There will continue to be infighting. There won't be any "split", or more to the point...there won't be any "split" that has any real national relevance. Which side will win out...the "tea party" mentality or the more "establishment" mentality? It's hard ot say. We'll likely see this fight continue for at least the next two to three election cycles before we see a clear progression in one direction or the other.
 
OTHER: The Republican Party will cease to exist. The Moderate/Centrist members along with many of the Libertarians will end up joining the Democratic Party. A new party, not directly associated with the Tea Party, but instead with actual Conservative Values will spring up, possibly by a combination of some Tea Party members, members of groups like the Constitution Party and other smaller organizations. The new "Conservative" Party will rule itself internally with an iron fist.
 
Zyphlin said:
There will continue to be infighting. There won't be any "split", or more to the point...there won't be any "split" that has any real national relevance. Which side will win out...the "tea party" mentality or the more "establishment" mentality? It's hard ot say. We'll likely see this fight continue for at least the next two to three election cycles before we see a clear progression in one direction or the other.
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I have to tell ya ... I'm mystified that the Republican Party honchos in the Senate, some in the House, and the talkheads on TV acted like they didn't realize that they were being played by Obama and the Democrats.
The Dems are scared shtless of Cruz, Lee, the TP, etc. so they had to demonize, demoralize, & neuter them before the 2014 elections.
Once they got the Pubs to likewise slam their own people the Dems were home free ... now and in the near future.
You'd think after all this time the Republican Party as a whole would realize that trashing their own and agreeing with the Dems just to get a taste of loving approbation from the media is counterproductive.
What good is a Party that looks just like other one?
 
bubbabgone said:
I have to tell ya ... I'm mystified that the Republican Party honchos in the Senate, some in the House, and the talkheads on TV acted like they didn't realize that they were being played by Obama and the Democrats.
The Dems are scared shtless of Cruz, Lee, the TP, etc. so they had to demonize, demoralize, & neuter them before the 2014 elections.
Once they got the Pubs to likewise slam their own people the Dems were home free ... now and in the near future.
You'd think after all this time the Republican Party as a whole would realize that trashing their own and agreeing with the Dems just to get a taste of loving approbation from the media is counterproductive.
What good is a Party that looks just like other one?
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Very good point! The Pubs act like "babes in the woods" who have no clue about the real world! :eek: We know they're not "down and dirty," but now is not the time to eat our own! Dirty politics can also be played with class and humor...Reagan did it!

Good morning, Bubba. :2wave:
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Gradual slide into irrelevancy as the demographics become more diverse and the populace wises up.
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At which point they stop considering ballots and instead turn to bullets to make themselves heard.
 
Tigger said:
OTHER: The Republican Party will cease to exist. The Moderate/Centrist members along with many of the Libertarians will end up joining the Democratic Party. A new party, not directly associated with the Tea Party, but instead with actual Conservative Values will spring up, possibly by a combination of some Tea Party members, members of groups like the Constitution Party and other smaller organizations. The new "Conservative" Party will rule itself internally with an iron fist.
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Shockingly, someone made a mug depicting the moment this revelation came to Tigger

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;) I appreciate the "iron fist" comment at the end to give a clear indication of the seriousness of the post. The oppertunity was too good to pass up though
 
Zyphlin said:
Shockingly, someone made a mug depicting the moment this revelation came to Tigger
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That revelation came to me a long time ago, Zyphlin. Long before the Tea Party even existed. The Republican Party hasn't had any value in nearly a century.

Zyphlin said:
;) I appreciate the "iron fist" comment at the end to give a clear indication of the seriousness of the post. The oppertunity was too good to pass up though
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The "iron fist" comment was simply an indication that this new party will be one where principle is expected and not taken lightly.
 
In this "Cheeseburger Apocalypse," will they be bacon cheeseburgers or not?
 
polgara said:
Very good point! The Pubs act like "babes in the woods" who have no clue about the real world! :eek: We know they're not "down and dirty," but now is not the time to eat our own! Dirty politics can also be played with class and humor...Reagan did it!

Good morning, Bubba. :2wave:
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Yeah. Puzzling, ain't it?
When I see that stuff I just keep thinking of the Jon Lovitz character who said "I just want to be loved, is that so wrooooong." and picturing John McCain saying it.
Hi Pol.
 
Tigger said:
The Moderate/Centrist members along with many of the Libertarians will end up joining the Democratic Party.
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Absolutely no chance of that happening. The current Democratic Party is not a welcoming place for any kind of moderates. As for libertarians, we are about as likely to go Democratic as the Czech Republic to ban beer.
 
Cyrylek said:
Absolutely no chance of that happening. The current Democratic Party is not a welcoming place for any kind of moderates. As for libertarians, we are about as likely to go Democratic as the Czech Republic to ban beer.
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Moderate Republicans ARE Liberals and Liberaltarians have nothing in common with real Conservatives, so there's no place for them other than in the Democratic Party (where their mostly Liberal ideals already find a fair amount of acceptance anyway).
 
bubbabgone said:
Yeah. Puzzling, ain't it?
When I see that stuff I just keep thinking of the Jon Lovitz character who said "I just want to be loved, is that so wrooooong." and picturing John McCain saying it.
Hi Pol.
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:funny:

:2birthday: Bubba! :2party:
 
Tigger said:
Moderate Republicans ARE Liberals and Liberaltarians have nothing in common with real Conservatives, so there's no place for them other than in the Democratic Party (where their mostly Liberal ideals already find a fair amount of acceptance anyway).
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If by "Liberal" you mean the kind of American socialist/social democratic political philosophy that permeates the Democratic Party, it is diametrically opposite to Libertarianism (classical liberalism). Whenever Liberals appear to pursue limited-government, personal freedom-oriented policies, their motivations and reasoning is very different (usually, just chasing one or the other group of voters).

As for "real conservatives", they should be reminded that America was founded on the classical liberal, "libertarian" principles; all too often they are trying to "conserve" what amounts to betrayal of those principles.
 
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