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  • The Tea Party and the GOP will officially become seperate.

    1 3.70%
  • The GOP will remain as one, but be plauged by infighting.

    16 59.26%
  • The Tea Party will eclipse the GOP and become the norm

    2 7.41%
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    5 18.52%
  • Cheeseburger apocalypse.

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Thread: Right Wingers-What is the future of the Republican Party?

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    Re: Right Wingers-What is the future of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Very good point! The Pubs act like "babes in the woods" who have no clue about the real world! We know they're not "down and dirty," but now is not the time to eat our own! Dirty politics can also be played with class and humor...Reagan did it!

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    Yeah. Puzzling, ain't it?
    When I see that stuff I just keep thinking of the Jon Lovitz character who said "I just want to be loved, is that so wrooooong." and picturing John McCain saying it.
    Hi Pol.

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    Re: Right Wingers-What is the future of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    The Moderate/Centrist members along with many of the Libertarians will end up joining the Democratic Party.
    Absolutely no chance of that happening. The current Democratic Party is not a welcoming place for any kind of moderates. As for libertarians, we are about as likely to go Democratic as the Czech Republic to ban beer.

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    Re: Right Wingers-What is the future of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Absolutely no chance of that happening. The current Democratic Party is not a welcoming place for any kind of moderates. As for libertarians, we are about as likely to go Democratic as the Czech Republic to ban beer.
    Moderate Republicans ARE Liberals and Liberaltarians have nothing in common with real Conservatives, so there's no place for them other than in the Democratic Party (where their mostly Liberal ideals already find a fair amount of acceptance anyway).

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    Re: Right Wingers-What is the future of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Yeah. Puzzling, ain't it?
    When I see that stuff I just keep thinking of the Jon Lovitz character who said "I just want to be loved, is that so wrooooong." and picturing John McCain saying it.
    Hi Pol.
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    : Bubba!

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    Re: Right Wingers-What is the future of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Moderate Republicans ARE Liberals and Liberaltarians have nothing in common with real Conservatives, so there's no place for them other than in the Democratic Party (where their mostly Liberal ideals already find a fair amount of acceptance anyway).
    If by "Liberal" you mean the kind of American socialist/social democratic political philosophy that permeates the Democratic Party, it is diametrically opposite to Libertarianism (classical liberalism). Whenever Liberals appear to pursue limited-government, personal freedom-oriented policies, their motivations and reasoning is very different (usually, just chasing one or the other group of voters).

    As for "real conservatives", they should be reminded that America was founded on the classical liberal, "libertarian" principles; all too often they are trying to "conserve" what amounts to betrayal of those principles.

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    Re: Right Wingers-What is the future of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    If by "Liberal" you mean the kind of American socialist/social democratic political philosophy that permeates the Democratic Party, it is diametrically opposite to Libertarianism (classical liberalism). Whenever Liberals appear to pursue limited-government, personal freedom-oriented policies, their motivations and reasoning is very different (usually, just chasing one or the other group of voters).
    By "Liberal" I mean ALL people who cannot figure out that Right and Wrong are Universal, Unmoving, and Unchanging ideals which do not have exceptions or grey areas. By "Liberal" I mean ALL people who cannot accept that Morality, Values and Principles ARE the guiding and defining concepts of life.... Not fun, enjoyment, happiness, or anything of the sort.
    By "Liberal" I mean ALL people who cannot accept that what one SHOULD do is infinitely more important than what one WANTS to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    As for "real conservatives", they should be reminded that America was founded on the classical liberal, "libertarian" principles; all too often they are trying to "conserve" what amounts to betrayal of those principles.
    My basis for and definition of Conservatism goes back to long before this continent was even a blip on the mythical radar of the Norse people, nevermind any anglo-protestant incursion from southern Europe.

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    Re: Right Wingers-What is the future of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    For our right leaning members/conservatives/Republicans on DP, what do you think is the future of the GOP? I tried to give some reasonable answers, but if you think something else will happen, please select other and explain.

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    Re: Right Wingers-What is the future of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    By "Liberal" I mean ALL people who cannot figure out that Right and Wrong are Universal, Unmoving, and Unchanging ideals which do not have exceptions or grey areas. By "Liberal" I mean ALL people who cannot accept that Morality, Values and Principles ARE the guiding and defining concepts of life.... .
    Then what on Earth do you have against libertarians? Most of us fully subscribe to the notion of objective morality, with freedom of choice being its cornerstone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    My basis for and definition of Conservatism goes back to long before this continent was even a blip on the mythical radar of the Norse people, nevermind any anglo-protestant incursion from southern Europe.
    I see: a political philosophy of theocratic tyranny based on the Mosaic law. To each his own, I guess. But your outright rejection of the Jeffersonian credo is most refreshing.

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    Re: Right Wingers-What is the future of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    In this "Cheeseburger Apocalypse," will they be bacon cheeseburgers or not?
    Every type of Cheeseburger.
    "Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough."
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    Re: Right Wingers-What is the future of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Then what on Earth do you have against libertarians? Most of us fully subscribe to the notion of objective morality, with freedom of choice being its cornerstone.
    I'm talking about the ideal that there is no "objective" morality. There is one, cut and dried morality which is not changeable or avoidable. Likewise, I do not believe that freedom of choice is a great idea. POSSIBLY, within certain cultural limitations which are strictly enforced, but definitely not in a general context.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    I see: a political philosophy of theocratic tyranny based on the Mosaic law. To each his own, I guess. But your outright rejection of the Jeffersonian credo is most refreshing.
    Not Mosaic Law. Something that comes even before that, especially for those of us who are not religious. Morality superceedes Religion because its basis is not in a particular dietical system but in the innate nature of humanity itself.

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