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What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

What should happen for the over 20mph violation example given?

  • Acknowledge the no-traffic and quality of vehicle in consideration.

    Votes: 3 5.6%
  • Severe chastizing but only written warning.

    Votes: 2 3.7%
  • A ticket, but written for under 20 over due to circumstance.

    Votes: 2 3.7%
  • Write a ticket for over 20 mph but under 100 mph

    Votes: 2 3.7%
  • Write a ticket forthe full 170 mph

    Votes: 21 38.9%
  • A huge $$ fine

    Votes: 10 18.5%
  • Permanently seize car and forfeture it.

    Votes: 3 5.6%
  • Jail time

    Votes: 3 5.6%
  • Suspend driver's license for 1 year

    Votes: 7 13.0%
  • Suspend driver's license for years.

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • Total voters
    54
A highway patrol car on a good condition 4 lane divided highway with a 70 mph speed limit, no other cars on the highway in a remote area picks up a sole car doing 170 mph heading his way on the other side empty and flat open area 2 lanes. A new Corette ZR 1 designed to go 200 mph. When the officer pulls across the center medium, the ZR1 driver (no passenger) pulls over anticipating being stopped.

What should the officer do and what should the penalty be?


Multiple choice, public vote.




Anyone who is stupid enough to drive like that on a public highway shouldn't have a driver's license, and should pay a heavy price for their stupidity.
 
Wel I don't want to do that right now.

She is all original but not in a good way.

51 years of sun will do that to a girl.

I am trying to get some of the surface rust off of her to protect the paint, but I get tired so quickly, I can't get much done myself, and I won't let anybody touch her.

She is an amazing car though. After 20 years of sitting without moving an inch, I got her to where I am now on tow trucks, added a battery and a fuel line to a gas can, and started and ran fine. No leaking radiator and even the fuel pump Works fine. I can drive her anywhere like she is. I don't think anybody else can say they can drive a car that had been sitting for over 20 years without fixing a lot of stuff. I did have the front end rebuilt, but she needed that back when I was driving her in high school. The original owners drove her from 1963 to 1977 and parked her in front of the house. I bought her in 1982 and have put on very few miles. She runs better now tan she ever did with me.

Remember she is Christines Little sister, just 5 years apart, same car. They both have an attitude sometimes.

She is very similar to my avatar, just a sedan instead of a 4 door hardtop.

413 wedge?
 
413 wedge?

Beach Boys Shut Down Lyrics

Songwriters: WILSON, BRIAN/CHRISTIAN, ROGER VAL



Tach it up, tach it up
Buddy gonna shut you down

It happened on the strip where the road is wide
Two cool shorts standin' side by side
Yeah, my fuel injected Stingray and a 413
Were revvin' up our engines and it sounds real mean

Tach it up, tach it up
Buddy gonna shut you down

Declinin' numbers at an even rate
At the count of one we both accelerate
My Stingray's light the slicks are startin' to spin
But the 413's really diggen in


Gotta be cool now power shift here we go

Superstock Dodge is winding out in low
But my fuel injected Stingray's really startin' to go
To get the traction I'm ridin' the clutch
My pressure plate's burnin' that machine's too much

Pedal's to the floor hear the dual quads drink
And now the 413's lead is startin to shrink
He's hot with ram induction but it's understood
I got a fuel injected engine sittin' under my hood


Shut it off, shut it off buddy now I shut you down
Shut it off, shut it off buddy now I shut you down
Shut it off, shut it off buddy now I shut you down
 
413 wedge?

No she has the Commando 361 2 BBL. She has had a burned valve ever since I have had her, but she still runs smooth on 7 cylinders.

She was a family car. She still has the parking sticker from UCLA that expired in 1966.
 
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5.3? Don't you mean an 8.1. Depending on state or where inspected, vehicle must meet EPA emissions standard for year of manufacture of the body/frame or engine block, whichever is newer. Do you know how expensive and difficult it is to do an exorcism of the demon EPA from a car?

Gear splitting and double overdrive for higher speeds.

Do you have to smog '71s in your área?
 
No offense, but I am so over the clone fad. Rock the Malibu scripts or whatever it came with and leave it alone.

I second that emotion.

There are more Chevelle SSs running around than were made.
 
On the books, just not generally enforced. But then, the liberals haven't had any real power in the state for almost 20 years now, but that may be changing.

Don't you have to have a safety inspection in Texas? If so they are going to tear your car apart with all the aftermarket parts you are going to have on it.
 
No she has the Commando 361 2 BBL. She has had a burned valve ever since I have had her, but she still runs smooth on 7 cylinders.

She was a family car. She still has the parking sticker from UCLA that expired in 1966.

DON'T REMOVE THE STICKER. It increased value - a lot.
 
Don't you have to have a safety inspection in Texas? If so they are going to tear your car apart with all the aftermarket parts you are going to have on it.

I think anything over 25 years old is exempt except from the basics like lights, a seatbelt that matched the age of it and a windshield wiper. No tailpipe tests and probably any mods are ok.
 
Do you have to smog '71s in your área?

1971 is pre-smog. Most EPA laws first hit cars for the first time in 1972. Even then it was almost nothing and no tailpipe standard. It was 1972 when the compression and horsepower dramatically dropped on all cars. Some exemptions were given for some models for the next few years such as the Ford Cleveland, which could not meet EPA standards.
 
DON'T REMOVE THE STICKER. It increased value - a lot.

I am not removing anything. I am not going to restore her. She is my youth and I know where each and every scratch and bump came from.

It has been years learning that I don't have to have every one of my cars in perfect condition. That was a hard lesson to learn.
 
I am not removing anything. I am not going to restore her. She is my youth and I know where each and every scratch and bump came from.

It has been years learning that I don't have to have every one of my cars in perfect condition. That was a hard lesson to learn.

Unrestored is highly respected and restoration can reduce value on some vehicles and other antiques.
 
I think anything over 25 years old is exempt except from the basics like lights, a seatbelt that matched the age of it and a windshield wiper. No tailpipe tests and probably any mods are ok.

I hope for his sake that is true.

In Nevada a friend had a new Chevy truck engine in his '81 Z-28. This was back in the '90s. DMV told him it was an illegal engine Exchange. It was blowing 0s.

They made him get a 1981 engine, from a Chevy station Wagon with a carb and he had a hard time getting it to pass smog.

It seems counter productive to me if the goal is to have cleaner burning cars. Everybody knows 1981 was the worst year for cars ever.
 
Unrestored is highly respected and restoration can reduce value on some vehicles and other antiques.

Well, she is worn looking but I like her like that.
 
1971 is pre-smog. Most EPA laws first hit cars for the first time in 1972. Even then it was almost nothing and no tailpipe standard. It was 1972 when the compression and horsepower dramatically dropped on all cars. Some exemptions were given for some models for the next few years such as the Ford Cleveland, which could not meet EPA standards.

In Cali, they started around '68. EPA was why the LS-6 454 was only offered in 1970. However, emissions were mandatory timing sets and smog pumps for the most part. Catalytic converters become mandatory in 1776 for passenger cars.
 
Do you have to smog '71s in your área?

No, not yet. Statewide DEQ has been proposed several times but has been shot down. '71's smog system was so basic and useless that even Cali doesn't care about it anymore. However, during safety checks, smog equipment is visually checked.
 
Don't you have to have a safety inspection in Texas? If so they are going to tear your car apart with all the aftermarket parts you are going to have on it.

Not really. Everything I add will actually make it safer and more efficient. Brakes and E-Brake are given functional test not visual inspections, ie, drive car, slam on brakes, does car stop. For E-Brakes, the set the brake and try to start the car moving forwards, it holds, you pass. Safety checks are basic, not a TUV type inspection they have in Germany. I won't claim that it will be safe for 170 mph, but it will be tons safer than when it was stock.
 
A highway patrol car on a good condition 4 lane divided highway with a 70 mph speed limit, no other cars on the highway in a remote area picks up a sole car doing 170 mph heading his way on the other side empty and flat open area 2 lanes. A new Corette ZR 1 designed to go 200 mph. When the officer pulls across the center medium, the ZR1 driver (no passenger) pulls over anticipating being stopped.

What should the officer do and what should the penalty be?

Multiple choice, public vote.

Am I the only one missing something? The poll references 20mph over the limit but the OP references a car going 170mph...?
 
Am I the only one missing something? The poll references 20mph over the limit but the OP references a car going 170mph...?
I think that's the option which says "A ticket, but written for under 20 over due to circumstance."
Wherein "circumstance" refers to the empty road.
 
Am I the only one missing something? The poll references 20mph over the limit but the OP references a car going 170mph...?

Technically the poll references "the over 20mph violation example given". 100mph is indeed over 20mph. Seems a bit like asking what the punishment should be for stealing more than a candy bar and giving a scenario of a car theft operation. Technically it would be more than a candy bar. Phrasing it as "the over 20mph violation" could be replaced with "the 100mph over violation" but that sounds a lot worse.
 
I hope for his sake that is true.

In Nevada a friend had a new Chevy truck engine in his '81 Z-28. This was back in the '90s. DMV told him it was an illegal engine Exchange. It was blowing 0s.

They made him get a 1981 engine, from a Chevy station Wagon with a carb and he had a hard time getting it to pass smog.

It seems counter productive to me if the goal is to have cleaner burning cars. Everybody knows 1981 was the worst year for cars ever.

It isn't just state laws, but federal law. With federal law, the car has to meet EPA standards for the chassis OR the motor, WHICHEVER IS NEWER.
 
Am I the only one missing something? The poll references 20mph over the limit but the OP references a car going 170mph...?

Nah, I just think everyone for the most part is ignoring that. My guess, and it is only my guess, is that the OP somehow equates over 20mph over with being of equal danger to the public.
 
Am I the only one missing something? The poll references 20mph over the limit but the OP references a car going 170mph...?

The reason for "2o over" is because that is the cut point between just a ticket and severe consequences in most states. I used the 170 mph standard and situation (open highway and no other vehicles in sight) as a question of whether people want others severely punished solely on the principle of punishment regardless of harm or risks to others.
 
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