View Poll Results: What should happen for the over 20mph violation example given?

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  • Acknowledge the no-traffic and quality of vehicle in consideration.

    6 8.82%
  • Severe chastizing but only written warning.

    4 5.88%
  • A ticket, but written for under 20 over due to circumstance.

    2 2.94%
  • Write a ticket for over 20 mph but under 100 mph

    3 4.41%
  • Write a ticket forthe full 170 mph

    22 32.35%
  • A huge $$ fine

    15 22.06%
  • Permanently seize car and forfeture it.

    3 4.41%
  • Jail time

    3 4.41%
  • Suspend driver's license for 1 year

    7 10.29%
  • Suspend driver's license for years.

    3 4.41%
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Thread: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A highway patrol car on a good condition 4 lane divided highway with a 70 mph speed limit, no other cars on the highway in a remote area picks up a sole car doing 170 mph heading his way on the other side empty and flat open area 2 lanes. A new Corette ZR 1 designed to go 200 mph. When the officer pulls across the center medium, the ZR1 driver (no passenger) pulls over anticipating being stopped. What should the officer do and what should the penalty be? Multiple choice, public vote.
    Wow, I expected a 20mph story instead it's 100mph over. BIG diff. Throw the book at him, impound his car. If he/she wants to rev it up, and can afford a car like that, they can afford to lease a racetrack for the afternoon or evening. Stay off the f'ing roads, just cuz it appears clear, doesn't mean it'll stay that way. Things have a way of not being controlled except in controlled circumstances, like a racetrack.
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Go the Swiss way and base the fine off income, so a millionare pays a million!

    $1 million speeding fine in Switzerland for Swedish SLS owner
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    There are many, many areas where open, divided highway is common. There are NO "closed courses" that allow a production car as-is to drive at such speeds. One reason I posted to poll is to explore just how much American culture has changed towards radical control, intense fear, an endless demand for more severe punishments, and endlessly filling more prison cells. Your "OMG!!! Going over 100?!!!!" is an example. A ZR1 can more safely go 120 than most small SUVs can go 70. ZR1s don't roll over if they have a blowout at 120, since they have run-flat tires. In the situation I gave, the only person endangered was the driver. Do you think if a person is caught driving while high on pot or drunk the person should never be allowed to drive again, car seized and jail time? That does definitely endangers others.
    As to that last remark... the only likely to happen with a person smoking pot and only smoking pot, is that they'll be going too slow, not usually an endangering problem. Stoners get light feet not heavy feet. So even though I agree they'll make mistakes, they'll be doing it in slower motion and likely to cause less harm than any sober mistake at 170mph or even 100mph.

    If you want a controlled situation, lease a racetrack for an hour or two. That's what they are for, racetracks, not public roads. That's the only way to guarantee the driver is the only one hurt.
    Last edited by Summerwind; 10-20-13 at 09:06 AM.
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Interesting. There isn't a single scenario in which speeding should be punishable in your eyes? School zones perhaps? Residential neighborhoods?
    I think most people wouldn't like the criminal and civil liability that comes along with vehicular manslaughter.

    On the other hand, I'm unfond of any law that penalizes those who have not harmed others. If you hit someone or something with your car, that's harming others because you couldn't control your vehicle.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    I think most people wouldn't like the criminal and civil liability that comes along with vehicular manslaughter.

    On the other hand, I'm unfond of any law that penalizes those who have not harmed others. If you hit someone or something with your car, that's harming others because you couldn't control your vehicle.
    I think most people wouldn't like the criminal and civilly liable death that comes to their loved one during vehicular manslaughter.

    And I somewhat agree with the idea that perhaps tickets should be issued when problems arise and not just because of speed, within some limits, because we all know that we all do, and our streets in front of our houses are rife with folks safely going over speed limit, but we also know that at certain speeds, those cars going by the house are way too fast for the possible activities of the neighborhood, so that would have to be determined. Probably more leeway on highways, less in residental, and some where in between for these 7 widers that go past huge industrial districts with limited access and few cross streets, etc. So I do agree with this and have thought about it often before.
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    I think most people wouldn't like the criminal and civil liability that comes along with vehicular manslaughter.
    And yet so many are short sighted enough to drive 100 over or whilst intoxicated. At some point society should seek to deter behavior that drastically increases the likelihood of vehicular manslaughter, not merely the act itself.

    On the other hand, I'm unfond of any law that penalizes those who have not harmed others. If you hit someone or something with your car, that's harming others because you couldn't control your vehicle.
    The law seeks to and does penalize those who have shown a disregard for the safety of others. Driving 100 mph over falls into that category. Facing the wrong direction at the firing range or a shot placed six inches above your neighbors head does as well. Not every action that falls just short of the real deal should be absolved from legal repercussions.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    6 months in jail, big fine (dollar amount depends on how rich/poor they are), permanent license suspension and the word "IDIOT" branded on their forehead.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    I actually sat in a court case that was interested in the ticket of a speeder (this was 87mph) on a clear four lane freeway. The defendant argued that the statute had a provision that allowed for "the condition of the road" to determine a reasonable speed. The prosecution argued that the speed limit sign is a condition of the road, needless to say the prosecution won the argument. The man had to pay his ticket.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram View Post
    LOL,,,,I've been around,,,,,just not here. You flatter me with the welcome wagon reception,,,,,where's my basket? lol
    so from your life experience you can tell if I am an attorney or not? that was the point i was addressing



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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Go the Swiss way and base the fine off income, so a millionare pays a million!

    $1 million speeding fine in Switzerland for Swedish SLS owner
    that would fail here under due process and equal protection grounds (thank God)



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