View Poll Results: What should happen for the over 20mph violation example given?

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  • Acknowledge the no-traffic and quality of vehicle in consideration.

    6 8.82%
  • Severe chastizing but only written warning.

    4 5.88%
  • A ticket, but written for under 20 over due to circumstance.

    2 2.94%
  • Write a ticket for over 20 mph but under 100 mph

    3 4.41%
  • Write a ticket forthe full 170 mph

    22 32.35%
  • A huge $$ fine

    15 22.06%
  • Permanently seize car and forfeture it.

    3 4.41%
  • Jail time

    3 4.41%
  • Suspend driver's license for 1 year

    7 10.29%
  • Suspend driver's license for years.

    3 4.41%
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    What does killing someone with drunk driving get you usually in the U.S.?
    some states not much, others substantial time. In KY a drunk driver in 1989 or so ran into a school bus coming back from an amusement park about 75 miles away and killed more than a dozen kids who died when the ensuing fire caused cushions in the bus seats to emit toxic fumes. I think he did about a year for each kid he killed.

    on the other hand, many years ago a guy tried to kill himself and deliberately drove his station wagon the wrong way on an interstate near my home. Two girls I grew up with were in the back seat of their parents' Porsche-the vehicle the nutcase slammed into. The parents died, the girls survived as did the suicidal whacko. He only got a couple years. vehicular homicide due to DWI is getting more and more time lately



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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    The Belgians and Germans have it figured out, we need higher speed limits or none at all.
    Exactly. A 70 mph speed limit is simply pitiful. It's completely arbitrary, and only really serves to encourage average citizens to treat the law with contempt.

    Basically the only reason most speed limit laws exist in the first place is to placate busybodies who get their panties in a snit whenever someone drives faster than they do, and serve as a covert form of taxation to bring in revenue for state and city governments. It's an archaic set up, and should really be changed.
    Last edited by Gathomas88; 10-20-13 at 02:19 AM.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    some states not much, others substantial time. In KY a drunk driver in 1989 or so ran into a school bus coming back from an amusement park about 75 miles away and killed more than a dozen kids who died when the ensuing fire caused cushions in the bus seats to emit toxic fumes. I think he did about a year for each kid he killed.

    on the other hand, many years ago a guy tried to kill himself and deliberately drove his station wagon the wrong way on an interstate near my home. Two girls I grew up with were in the back seat of their parents' Porsche-the vehicle the nutcase slammed into. The parents died, the girls survived as did the suicidal whacko. He only got a couple years. vehicular homicide due to DWI is getting more and more time lately
    There was a case here last year I think and he ended up killing a teenager and that got him life imprisonment. Drunk driving is taken rather seriously here for the most part, the U.S. seems to be more lax then.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Exactly. A 70 mph speed limit is simply pitiful. It's completely arbitrary, and only really serves to encourage average citizens to treat the law with contempt.

    Basically the only reason most speed limit laws exist in the first place to placate busybodies who get their panties in a snit whenever someone drives faster than they do, and serve as a covert form of taxation to bring in revenue for state and city governments. It's an archaic set up, and should really be changed.
    My cousin was driving me to Amsterdam through Germany and we were going 220km/h (136mp/h) down one of the autobahns well until we hit the Netherlands where it went down to 100kp/h (60mp/h) and everything went well so I don't see the issue. In Belgium the speed limit is usually 130km/h (80mp/h) on highways but even then most people go much faster.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    There was a case here last year I think and he ended up killing a teenager and that got him life imprisonment. Drunk driving is taken rather seriously here for the most part, the U.S. seems to be more lax then.
    its been treated more seriously

    same civilly

    the local TGIF franchise had a store in KY. The bartender served someone who some say was impaired before he got the last drink. others say it was a gray area but nevertheless TGIF settled a suit for 21 MILLION

    as a side note I believe the drunk driver was completely responsible and I have problems with what I call deep pocket
    lawsuits


    http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2003/T-G-I-Friday-s-OKs-$21M-DUI-Settlement/id-12d326837c8d9f58276280eb6dd6e7c9



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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    My cousin was driving me to Amsterdam through Germany and we were going 220km/h (136mp/h) down one of the autobahns well until we hit the Netherlands where it went down to 100kp/h (60mp/h) and everything went well so I don't see the issue. In Belgium the speed limit is usually 130km/h (80mp/h) on highways but even then most people go much faster.
    I drove from Heidelberg to Munich for Oktoberfest back in 2011. I had to have been going at least 110-120 mph the whole way there, and there were still guys in BMWs blowing past me at significantly higher speeds.

    I would've gone faster, but unfortunately my crappy rental SUV couldn't handle it.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I drove from Heidelberg to Munich for Oktoberfest back in 2011. I had to have been going at least 120 mph the whole way there, and there were still guys in BMWs blowing past me at significantly higher speeds.

    I would've gone faster, but unfortunately my crappy rental SUV couldn't handle it.
    The closer to Munich you get the faster the cars are, I would love to take a top of the line Mercedes and see how fast I could truly go.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    Say some traffic crime results in death. Do we give everyone a freebie?
    Because they got lucky.

    The gal who hit us at high speed didn't cause a fatality because I did not slam on the brakes. I told the officer that I think I tried, but the impact moved my foot away from the pedal. He said it was a natural, but harmful response. If I had, my son and I would have been in a major spin into oncoming traffic on a five lane major freeway. Read DEAD.

    The officer was scratching his head in awe that there were no fatalities.

    I probably should not personalize it, but it is hard not to. It is a privilege to drive, not a right. You give passes for minor infractions, driving over 100 is far from minor.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh yeah, I realize you haven't been around for more than a few days but obviously. and the penalties are very different for different outcomes even if the mens rea is the same.
    LOL,,,,I've been around,,,,,just not here. You flatter me with the welcome wagon reception,,,,,where's my basket? lol

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    "I probably should not personalize it, but it is hard not to. It is a privilege to drive, not a right. You give passes for minor infractions, driving over 100 is far from minor."

    A Cop will get into trouble giving passes on Property damage T/A's,,,,,especially those with injury.

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