View Poll Results: What should happen for the over 20mph violation example given?

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  • Acknowledge the no-traffic and quality of vehicle in consideration.

    6 8.82%
  • Severe chastizing but only written warning.

    4 5.88%
  • A ticket, but written for under 20 over due to circumstance.

    2 2.94%
  • Write a ticket for over 20 mph but under 100 mph

    3 4.41%
  • Write a ticket forthe full 170 mph

    22 32.35%
  • A huge $$ fine

    15 22.06%
  • Permanently seize car and forfeture it.

    3 4.41%
  • Jail time

    3 4.41%
  • Suspend driver's license for 1 year

    7 10.29%
  • Suspend driver's license for years.

    3 4.41%
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    Am I the only one missing something? The poll references 20mph over the limit but the OP references a car going 170mph...?
    I think that's the option which says "A ticket, but written for under 20 over due to circumstance."
    Wherein "circumstance" refers to the empty road.
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    Am I the only one missing something? The poll references 20mph over the limit but the OP references a car going 170mph...?
    Technically the poll references "the over 20mph violation example given". 100mph is indeed over 20mph. Seems a bit like asking what the punishment should be for stealing more than a candy bar and giving a scenario of a car theft operation. Technically it would be more than a candy bar. Phrasing it as "the over 20mph violation" could be replaced with "the 100mph over violation" but that sounds a lot worse.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I hope for his sake that is true.

    In Nevada a friend had a new Chevy truck engine in his '81 Z-28. This was back in the '90s. DMV told him it was an illegal engine Exchange. It was blowing 0s.

    They made him get a 1981 engine, from a Chevy station Wagon with a carb and he had a hard time getting it to pass smog.

    It seems counter productive to me if the goal is to have cleaner burning cars. Everybody knows 1981 was the worst year for cars ever.
    It isn't just state laws, but federal law. With federal law, the car has to meet EPA standards for the chassis OR the motor, WHICHEVER IS NEWER.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    Am I the only one missing something? The poll references 20mph over the limit but the OP references a car going 170mph...?
    Nah, I just think everyone for the most part is ignoring that. My guess, and it is only my guess, is that the OP somehow equates over 20mph over with being of equal danger to the public.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    Am I the only one missing something? The poll references 20mph over the limit but the OP references a car going 170mph...?
    The reason for "2o over" is because that is the cut point between just a ticket and severe consequences in most states. I used the 170 mph standard and situation (open highway and no other vehicles in sight) as a question of whether people want others severely punished solely on the principle of punishment regardless of harm or risks to others.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You never told me how much you got the the '68 300

    What condition was it in 1 - 6 and what was the selling Price?
    15k, it was drivable but didn't look like much, needed complete restoration, but it was a numbers car with a 440

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I hope for his sake that is true.

    In Nevada a friend had a new Chevy truck engine in his '81 Z-28. This was back in the '90s. DMV told him it was an illegal engine Exchange. It was blowing 0s.

    They made him get a 1981 engine, from a Chevy station Wagon with a carb and he had a hard time getting it to pass smog.

    It seems counter productive to me if the goal is to have cleaner burning cars. Everybody knows 1981 was the worst year for cars ever.
    I'm not saying your wrong, but something doesn't sound right about that. Was it DMV that told him that or DEQ? When I was in Tucson in the late 1990s, some of the DEQ inspectors were real zealots and would argue or try to fail cars with engine swaps. They will tell you it is "altering" emissions equipment. However, they should of made him, if missing or altered, correct the engine for emissions equipment for the year of the block. If putting a Big Block motor into a car that only came with a small block, then any small block should of been fine, not just one from that year model.

    A 350 ci chevy engine is a 350 ci chevy engine. Main differences between some were whether they had 2 bolt or 4 bolt mains, iron block or aluminum. The numbers on the 454 I bought, that series of motors were put in cars, trucks and motorhomes. Someplace like Cali, and maybe Nev, I've never lived there, might say something if you put a Big Block into a car that didn't have that option for that year. The extra weight would affect handling, breaking, safety, lots of things. Big Block was an engine option on the car I'm working on.
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The reason for "2o over" is because that is the cut point between just a ticket and severe consequences in most states. I used the 170 mph standard and situation (open highway and no other vehicles in sight) as a question of whether people want others severely punished solely on the principle of punishment regardless of harm or risks to others.
    Ah, ok.

    I don't know if it still holds true, never experienced it myself, but was told that in Texas, pretty much anything over 100 and you go to jail. Maybe bad info, maybe outdated info.
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Ah, ok.

    I don't know if it still holds true, never experienced it myself, but was told that in Texas, pretty much anything over 100 and you go to jail. Maybe bad info, maybe outdated info.
    No, you are probably right. It is different between states.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Areodynamic challenges are shown in the Bugatti Veyron. Top speed of any to date? 269 mph.

    At 140 mph the rear airfoil will automatically come up and the car automatically drop to 3.5 inches ground clearance. HOWEVER, in this form the computer will NOT allow a top speed run. The rear airfoil provides 770 pounds down force.

    To seek top speed, the driver must stop and turn a special switch. The car analyses whether it will allow it. If so, it will drop the car to 2.6 inches ground clearance, will keep the airfoil retracted and close the front air defuser because the ground effects slows the car down.

    Ground effects (wings, spoilers, etc) may improve cornering and stability. But they slow a car down due to areodynamic drag they cause.

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