View Poll Results: What should happen for the over 20mph violation example given?

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  • Acknowledge the no-traffic and quality of vehicle in consideration.

    6 8.82%
  • Severe chastizing but only written warning.

    4 5.88%
  • A ticket, but written for under 20 over due to circumstance.

    2 2.94%
  • Write a ticket for over 20 mph but under 100 mph

    3 4.41%
  • Write a ticket forthe full 170 mph

    22 32.35%
  • A huge $$ fine

    15 22.06%
  • Permanently seize car and forfeture it.

    3 4.41%
  • Jail time

    3 4.41%
  • Suspend driver's license for 1 year

    7 10.29%
  • Suspend driver's license for years.

    3 4.41%
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    ALL INTERSTATES were designed so that military vehicles such as army trucks could go at least 100 mph. That was and is the legal standard, so you are wrong.

    You are wrong about cars becoming airborne the faster they go. That's true if you're driving a 1950s Olds Rocket 88. It does NOT apply to modern performance cars. They actually get heavily the faster they go due to ground effects (wings, flairs, spoilers and underbody structure.)
    Actually the main purpose of the interstate highway program as far as military use was concernd was landing air planes. Please, find me a military vehicle that could do 100 mph back in the 50s. Hell even today you are lucky to get 65 out of a newer Hummer.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Tube frame cars can be street legal. Mine was. Drove mine all over Daytona for Turkey Rod runs every years.
    In CT, they aren't. I was gonna buy a tube frame C3, but after going to the DMV prior to purchase, was told the car could not be registered due to it not having a legal chassis. I think if it's a tube frame from the factory, sorta like the old ford gt40, or some newer super cars, it's fine. Are you sure the DMV was aware your car was tube frame when you got it registered? I'm pretty sure it's a DOT thing.

    I'd love to do a tube frame for my 76, as it sits, best I can hope for to reduce flex is a good cage, and even at that, up here, only 4 point roll bars are street legal.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Reminds me of how my Mrs. drives:


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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Actually the main purpose of the interstate highway program as far as military use was concernd was landing air planes. Please, find me a military vehicle that could do 100 mph back in the 50s. Hell even today you are lucky to get 65 out of a newer Hummer.
    You'd be lucky to get older military vehicles up to 55. They are made for hauling, not....HAULING.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Actually the main purpose of the interstate highway program as far as military use was concernd was landing air planes. Please, find me a military vehicle that could do 100 mph back in the 50s. Hell even today you are lucky to get 65 out of a newer Hummer.
    That used to be the joke that there is no such think as a military vehicle that does 100. But that was the justification Eisenhower gave. Many, many people were furious at their land being taken, towns bypassed and farms cut in half.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    You have gone off the deep end. People die racing in all sorts of racing. But the NHRA has a superior record of safety at its tracks nation wide.
    You have offered nothing but raging hyperbole. Hundreds of thousands if not millions of passes are made each year at NHRA sanctioned tracks and very very few people are injured or die. Probably more kids playing sports are hurt than in all of racing every year.
    Start backing up your insane claims with some real data.
    You're the one wanting to imprison people for going fast on open flat highway. You have yet to back up any reason to whatsoever.

    The NHRA predictably keeps no record of deaths and accidents. I could do about 10,000 video links to such accidents.

    Link to anyone ever hurt in the OP situation I gave.

    Oh, that's right. You presume anyone should go to prison and otherwise be criminalized unless proven otherwise - your presumption in favor of prosecutions and jailings.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Reminds me of how my Mrs. drives:

    Did you make that vid, or do you mean that this vid reminds you of how your wife drives?



    If it was you...nice road. Where's that at? And advice, out a small bright weighted item on the end of a short string, and dangle that from the mirror. Low tech g meter...gives the viewer a better idea of speed. I do it in my vette vids...it's always fun to see how close to sideways I can get it before the tires break.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    In CT, they aren't. I was gonna buy a tube frame C3, but after going to the DMV prior to purchase, was told the car could not be registered due to it not having a legal chassis. I think if it's a tube frame from the factory, sorta like the old ford gt40, or some newer super cars, it's fine. Are you sure the DMV was aware your car was tube frame when you got it registered? I'm pretty sure it's a DOT thing.

    I'd love to do a tube frame for my 76, as it sits, best I can hope for to reduce flex is a good cage, and even at that, up here, only 4 point roll bars are street legal.
    Rent a room in Florida as your address and register it in Florida claiming you are a "seasonal" resident. You can get an INSTANT title and tags - though need to car here to see the VIN number.

    So many snowbirds here on out of state license there is no problem and lots of old people have put-together cars as a hobby, plus there is NO inspection, NO tailpipe test AND you can register it for TWO years - which goes on birthdays. The only thing you'll need is proof of insurance, which they generally neither confirm nor make a copy of. Then in CT claim you also have a winter residence in Florida if ever even stopped and asked you have the Florida plate. You do not need to bring the car in to have the sticker renewed every 2 years and generally can do that by mail.
    Stamp whatever the VIN # was on the tube frame.
    Haul it here once and you have tags and title with no inspections for life.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You're the one wanting to imprison people for going fast on open flat highway. You have yet to back up any reason to whatsoever.

    The NHRA predictably keeps no record of deaths and accidents. I could do about 10,000 video links to such accidents.

    Link to anyone ever hurt in the OP situation I gave.

    Oh, that's right. You presume anyone should go to prison and otherwise be criminalized unless proven otherwise - your presumption in favor of prosecutions and jailings.
    In the very vid you posted, that Audi came close to 100mph twice. MILES and miles away from 170.

    Getting caught doing 120 on the interstate when it's deserted? Whatever. Pay the fine, lose the points. 140, 150, or higher? Effing 170?!? Rediculous. Revoke the license for a while. Not someone I want to share the road with. Oh, but no ones around, it was safe! Really? Where'd the cop that caught him come from, then? A wormhole?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko
    Your braking distance stats are grossly outdated.
    Oh is that so?

    Did you actually look at the citation? Here is what the owners have to say about themselves on their home page:

    Forensic Dynamics Inc. is a consulting forensic engineering firm specializing in accident reconstruction...
    Our firm has reconstructed over 10,000 accidents and given expert witness testimony in over 500 trials across North America.


    Seems I have to decide who to believe, Forensic Dynamics, Inc., or some putz who calls himself “joko.”

    joko loses.



    Quote Originally Posted by joko
    My CL65, a relatively heavy car, will come to a stop from 70 in under 150 feet. From 170 in 1/3rd the distance you claim.
    Whoa Nellie- not the distance I claim, the distance a company of auto accident reconstruction engineers claims.

    And speaking of citations, you could stand to provide a few of your own. Don’t blame me for not trying, though- I googled all kinds of “Mercedes CL65 braking performance” hits, and found nothing except sales boilerplate glossy.

    But, taking your 1/3 the distance****at face value, assuming a drunk takes triple the normal time to react, he will stop a car doing 70mph in about 400 feet, whereas at 170mph Mr. cold sober joko hotstuff needs about 647 feet to stop that CL65 of his. (I will provide the calculations as soon as I see a believable cite for the 1/3 the distance claim)

    Joko loses again, this time to a drunk.



    Quote Originally Posted by joko
    Those old braking charts are just that. Ancient.
    Rehash, covered.



    Quote Originally Posted by joko
    Interesting your defense of DUI by comparison.
    Interesting you haven’t told us you would prefer someone driving home from the neighborhood bar at a sober 130.

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