View Poll Results: What should happen for the over 20mph violation example given?

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  • Acknowledge the no-traffic and quality of vehicle in consideration.

    6 8.82%
  • Severe chastizing but only written warning.

    4 5.88%
  • A ticket, but written for under 20 over due to circumstance.

    2 2.94%
  • Write a ticket for over 20 mph but under 100 mph

    3 4.41%
  • Write a ticket forthe full 170 mph

    22 32.35%
  • A huge $$ fine

    15 22.06%
  • Permanently seize car and forfeture it.

    3 4.41%
  • Jail time

    3 4.41%
  • Suspend driver's license for 1 year

    7 10.29%
  • Suspend driver's license for years.

    3 4.41%
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Thread: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Post your source. Who is doing two years for falling asleep and killing someone. What state, what county, what year. Or is this just some "what if".
    Actually it's a 1 year misdemeanor. Per your request:

    Careless Driving Resulting in Death or Injury in Colorado
    Ore. man who lost son to suicide killed in Colo. on awareness walk | Fox News

    That is so outrageous i don't know where to begin.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Actually it's a 1 year misdemeanor. Per your request:

    Careless Driving Resulting in Death or Injury in Colorado
    Ore. man who lost son to suicide killed in Colo. on awareness walk | Fox News

    That is so outrageous i don't know where to begin.
    He was driving too fast for conditions, not falling asleep.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    He was driving too fast for conditions, not falling asleep.
    "Investigators believe the driver fell asleep"

    Every article i pulled up on this says so. Either way, he killed someone. He should be put away accordingly. I would also crack down on drunks who do this. The only tolerance i have is for a true accident.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    "Investigators believe the driver fell asleep"

    Every article i pulled up on this says so. Either way, he killed someone. He should be put away accordingly. I would also crack down on drunks who do this. The only tolerance i have is for a true accident.
    Now we are just getting into thread drift. The issue is what to do with someone caught doing 170 on a public road.
    They should be jailed, made to bond out, car confiscated until trial, and face a sever sentence and fine.
    NO highway is safe for that kind of speed as long as the road is open to the public. Its not prepped as a track, there is no safety crew or med staff. You think you can handle one seventy? GO run the Texas Mile or hit the salt flats where you can do it safely and not endanger other drivers.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Now we are just getting into thread drift. The issue is what to do with someone caught doing 170 on a public road.
    They should be jailed, made to bond out, car confiscated until trial, and face a sever sentence and fine.
    NO highway is safe for that kind of speed as long as the road is open to the public. Its not prepped as a track, there is no safety crew or med staff. You think you can handle one seventy? GO run the Texas Mile or hit the salt flats where you can do it safely and not endanger other drivers.
    I think they should get a medal if they manage to pull it off without crashing. I struggle to do this in video games even. I simply don't believe in deterring crime, merely justice after the fact. Someone driving 170 is borderline suicidal and doesn't care about legal consequence.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A highway patrol car on a good condition 4 lane divided highway with a 70 mph speed limit, no other cars on the highway in a remote area picks up a sole car doing 170 mph heading his way on the other side empty and flat open area 2 lanes. A new Corette ZR 1 designed to go 200 mph. When the officer pulls across the center medium, the ZR1 driver (no passenger) pulls over anticipating being stopped.

    What should the officer do and what should the penalty be?

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    Prison sentence, a hefty fine and a life ban from owning or operating a motor vehicle of any description.

    Watch the RTA stats plummet overnight. Problem solved.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    I think speeding laws are too harsh, but 170 is ludicrous. Once you're over 120 the dynamics of driving change; you're barely in touch with the ground, and float as much as roll. At that speed, a pot hole or a small bump in the road can send you airborne. Also, although the road may be clear, at 170 you have very little steering control and very, very long stopping distance, so if there's someone over the next hill, or someone or something (like a deer) comes out of the woods onto the road, you have little power to avoid them. The potential for a deadly wreck is extremely high. Most highways are engineered to be safe at 70 or at 90, not at 170. If you want to go 170, find a track day somewhere. Doing it on public roads is not responsible.

    That said, in Virginia, you get jail time for 90 MPH. I think that's too steep. I don't think you should get time until at least 100, but probably more like 120. 90 should just be a steep ticket if the roads are clear.
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    If the driver had a pilot's license, he should have gotten off with a warning.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    I think they should get a medal if they manage to pull it off without crashing. I struggle to do this in video games even. I simply don't believe in deterring crime, merely justice after the fact. Someone driving 170 is borderline suicidal and doesn't care about legal consequence.
    Not true, there are plenty of wanna be F1 heros out there with the means to do it. Just speed/adrenaline junkies. But illegal non the less, dangerous none the less.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    I think speeding laws are too harsh, but 170 is ludicrous. Once you're over 120 the dynamics of driving change; you're barely in touch with the ground, and float as much as roll. At that speed, a pot hole or a small bump in the road can send you airborne. Also, although the road may be clear, at 170 you have very little steering control and very, very long stopping distance, so if there's someone over the next hill, or someone or something (like a deer) comes out of the woods onto the road, you have little power to avoid them. The potential for a deadly wreck is extremely high. Most highways are engineered to be safe at 70 or at 90, not at 170. If you want to go 170, find a track day somewhere. Doing it on public roads is not responsible.

    That said, in Virginia, you get jail time for 90 MPH. I think that's too steep. I don't think you should get time until at least 100, but probably more like 120. 90 should just be a steep ticket if the roads are clear.
    While there are plenty of cars that are stable at 170, never should it be done on a road. Take it to the track.

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