View Poll Results: What should happen for the over 20mph violation example given?

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  • Acknowledge the no-traffic and quality of vehicle in consideration.

    6 8.82%
  • Severe chastizing but only written warning.

    4 5.88%
  • A ticket, but written for under 20 over due to circumstance.

    2 2.94%
  • Write a ticket for over 20 mph but under 100 mph

    3 4.41%
  • Write a ticket forthe full 170 mph

    22 32.35%
  • A huge $$ fine

    15 22.06%
  • Permanently seize car and forfeture it.

    3 4.41%
  • Jail time

    3 4.41%
  • Suspend driver's license for 1 year

    7 10.29%
  • Suspend driver's license for years.

    3 4.41%
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Please, read some chassis building books and the NHRA rule book before commenting further.
    Chassis twist is the result of a poorly built car. Period.
    Yes, a proper chassis minimized most of the twist that makes it to the wheels.

    Are you going to claim this reduction is 100%?

    I think not!

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Yes, a proper chassis minimized most of the twist that makes it to the wheels.

    Are you going to claim this reduction is 100%?

    I think not!
    Yes, properly done. A good built suspension will come off square and level.
    You see twist in alot of street cars that are unibody or full frame cars that are mainly C channel frame or X frame cars from the 60s.
    Chassis twist is reduced to almost nothing through the use of subframe connectors, stiffeners, roll cages, adjustable shocks, adjustable laddar or 4 link bars.
    The first thing on a well build car that gets stiffened and braced to reduce twist is the torque box through tubing going from side to side mainly in an X pattern where the rear suspension meets the chassis.
    Witness even the fastest mountain motor cars of the IHRA or Outlaw Pro Mod classes and you see the fastest and winningest cars coming out straight and level.
    That is proper tuning from the first motor plate all the way back to the wheelie bar.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    LOL...

    Not 100%.

    You can get close, but you will never achieve 100%...

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Thats called poor suspension set up and or poor driver skills.
    Could be bad track prep, but if you can build a 9 second car. You should know the track conditions before running.
    Not at all. He was a professional car builder and driver. There are variations on the track or the previous car left something there.

    With the power a 9 second car has, it doesn't take much.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I actually just went to englishtown with a busy of mine, and his recently "finished" 88' rustang 5.0. Built motor, from the bottom up, over 8 grand in machine work alone, let alone in components, all said, probably 15 grand sunk in the motor. Rediculously high lift cam, horrible street manners. And a 200 shot of nitrous. On the spray, the car lays down 580 rwhp, which, for some on here, doesn't sound like much...but to have that sort of power to the wheels, he must be making real close to 700hp at the crank. Built tko600 tranny, built ford 9 inch rear end, traction bars, the whole deal. This car took us almost 7 years to build, and a LOT of his money. Car weights 3250 pounds, with him in it. At the track, he ran 275 slicks. Did mid 11 sec passes. Couldn't get traction, with either of us driving. Part of it was body flex, it's just really hard to eliminate in older cars, without going the tube frame rout. We're also going to have to roll the rear fenders so we can safely fit a larger wheel/tire combo, I figure it needs at LEAST 325s. He needs to find a set of 16x10.5 wheels with 4 inch back spacing. He still wants to drive the car on the street, which I won't do (it's a waste of gas, IMO), so he's keeping his 16x8.5s, to run a set of nitto 555s on. Still won't get traction at half throttle with those tires. But whatever.

    Last but not least, he needs a good auto tranny, which he is also not going to do, he likes the manual. Will that car ever make a 10 sec pass? Maybe. I don't know.

    When I hear kids talking about their 10 second civic or integra, I can't help but laugh. They just have no clue.
    It takes a while to dial in a car.

    I take issue with an '88 Mustang being referred to as an older car.

    An older car is a 1967 Camaro or a 1970 Barracuda.

    The sounds those rice burners make is horrible. Nothing like a deep throat meaty V8.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    LOL...

    Not 100%.

    You can get close, but you will never achieve 100%...
    I am not wrong. But I only did it for 20 years, what do I know. I suggest you go to a track at a national event and start watching what cars are winning and launching well.
    Stop watching Farm Truck and the other OKC knuckle heads.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    It takes a while to dial in a car.

    I take issue with an '88 Mustang being referred to as an older car.

    An older car is a 1967 Camaro or a 1970 Barracuda.

    The sounds those rice burners make is horrible. Nothing like a deep throat meaty V8.
    A 88 Mustang is an older car, Fox body mustang in 1988 is no different than in 1979. That is 34 years old.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Not at all. He was a professional car builder and driver. There are variations on the track or the previous car left something there.

    With the power a 9 second car has, it doesn't take much.
    Name of professional builders shop.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I am not wrong. But I only did it for 20 years, what do I know. I suggest you go to a track at a national event and start watching what cars are winning and launching well.
    Stop watching Farm Truck and the other OKC knuckle heads.
    Well, I never said a car couldn't be built to come off "square and level." My 2002 WS6 comes off very strait for a production car compared to what my 1977 would. Granted, stock, and they are between 300 HP and 400 HP, but I feel the difference. I know a proper suspension will do so much better, and that the torque makes a large difference.

    I take offense to you suggesting I watch shows like "Farm Truck." I didn't even know such a show exists, and i don't watch such programs anyway.

    Again...

    I said you cannot eliminate it 100% I also said you can minimize it without qualifying that. Instead of choosing to agree or disagree with me, you took the low road in my view, implying disagreement. I think we both actually agree...
    Last edited by Lord of Planar; 10-21-13 at 02:22 PM.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    It takes a while to dial in a car.

    I take issue with an '88 Mustang being referred to as an older car.

    An older car is a 1967 Camaro or a 1970 Barracuda.

    The sounds those rice burners make is horrible. Nothing like a deep throat meaty V8.
    I don't know much about cars but I do know the sound of the older ones were very impressive. One of the coolest cars I've ever road in was a 76? maybe 77 Cadillac Eldorado convertible that had been chopped to a two-seater. It had that "deep throat meaty V8" sound and man could it go.

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