View Poll Results: What should happen for the over 20mph violation example given?

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  • Acknowledge the no-traffic and quality of vehicle in consideration.

    6 8.82%
  • Severe chastizing but only written warning.

    4 5.88%
  • A ticket, but written for under 20 over due to circumstance.

    2 2.94%
  • Write a ticket for over 20 mph but under 100 mph

    3 4.41%
  • Write a ticket forthe full 170 mph

    22 32.35%
  • A huge $$ fine

    15 22.06%
  • Permanently seize car and forfeture it.

    3 4.41%
  • Jail time

    3 4.41%
  • Suspend driver's license for 1 year

    7 10.29%
  • Suspend driver's license for years.

    3 4.41%
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?
    the offender should be forced to watch Cop Rock.



    speeding will cease overnight.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I've never wrecked a car at the track. I'm just saying that some weird things can happen once you introduce more power and traction to any given car equation.
    Mopar guys tend to be the craziest. ANYTHING to go faster. Some of the early 60s Baracudas are set up radically faster than their chassis are good for.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    It would take buckets of money to get a challenger up to GTR speed around road circuits, which is what the GTR is designed for. Even the ZR1, which, technically, in the hands of a PRO driver, is faster than the GTR, is not "real world faster". It's only faster on perfect Tarmac, with a great driver at the helm. Normal guys, even moderately skilled guys, which I consider myself to be, have their hands full with the ZR1. I drove that car 10 laps round Lime Rock, and I was fighting for controlled exit speed. I have no doubt that after 10 laps in the GTR, I would consistently post quicker lap times. Mahican is amazing. The GTR is a whale. And makes less power. On paper, it's not even in the same league as the ZR1. But that's the huge advantage of a great AWD system. Me? I still prefer RWD. Probably always will. But the GTR is a glimpse of the future, and that future is AWD.
    LT that I quoted mentioned only 1/4 Mile. No doubt to bring suspension, brakes up to equal for real driving would be a lot more. He mentioned 10 sec cars. Really, who only wants to "drive" for 10 sec. I never cared for drag personally.

    Drag and circle tracks are for fast cars, road courses are for fast drivers.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    A study is needed..
    Punishment must be effective.
    I do not think brutality and extremism are effective.
    I have few qualms with stretching the law.
    170 is not safe on an open road.
    Tracks vs roads.
    Tracks get walk down inspections every event.
    Tracks get swept every event.
    Tracks get cleared of debris before every event.
    Tracks get prepped every event.
    Tracks have safety and medical staff on site every time they are open.
    Tracks have guardrails to keep the cars on the track surface in the event of an out of contol car.
    Tracks dont have pot holes, wash outs, puddles, slower traffic.
    Highways are not prepped.
    Not inspected before every days runnings.
    Not cleared of debris.
    Not closed off to other traffic merging.
    Not guard railed usually.
    And no med staff on hand everywhere some bone head decides to leg it out.
    Oh, and if that officer died in a wreck trying to catch said 170 driver. That is a manslaughter charge on him. Happend here in Florida a few years ago with a FHP officer losing contol going after a Bike vs Porshe that were clocked at 150+.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The ZR1 is a very fast car. It is "primitive" in terms of suspension, handling compared to state-of-the-art, but for the price (particularly used), they are an exceptionally good deal. And I don't like Vettes. I can't deny their bang-for-the-buck and low cost ease of performance upgrading.

    However, for Vettes the real BANG FOR THE BUCK deal is used late model Z06s.
    Actually, the magnetic shocks the ZR1 debuted where state of the art...in 2009. They quickly found their way into many, now, MOST other high end performance cars.

    And the BEST bang for buck is a used late model grand sport. Same as Z06, but with an LS3 instead of the LS7, and they cost about 15 grand less. 15 grand buys one hell of a super charger kit! And voila. Poor mans ZR1. Still looking at a 40-60 grand investment, though.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    LT that I quoted mentioned only 1/4 Mile. No doubt to bring suspension, brakes up to equal for real driving would be a lot more. He mentioned 10 sec cars. Really, who only wants to "drive" for 10 sec. I never cared for drag personally.

    Drag and circle tracks are for fast cars, road courses are for fast drivers.
    Well at least us drag racers know where the finish line is. We dont have to go round and round looking for it.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    You know how most guys end up in the wall?
    The car gets loose and they lift, the suspension unloads, but they nail the throttle thinking "hey its straightend up" break the tires loose rear wants to come around, they correct and the front gets pushed into the wall.
    Aborting a run must become second nature in drag racing if something goes wrong. I have seen very few guys able to pedal a car just right to keep it going.
    Honestly, I'm not that experienced at drag racing. Had the vette out a few times, the rustang, and a 383 powered iroc camaro. The mustang was scary. It was a handful. But not impossible.

    I've got more seat time at auto cross and on road courses, namely, Lime Rock. And the opposite is true there. Reason why most drives end up off the road or swapping ends, ratings cones, whatever is because they come in to a turn hard, late braking, loading the front, then getting on it to come out of the turn fast...the feel the slide...and lift. Which is, in a RWD car, the worst thing you can do. Don't lift. Finish the slide. One you lift, you get snap over stear. It's a hard instinct to fight. I've ended up facing the wrong way plenty of times. Pretty scary on open track day, even worse when it involves eating a cone in a fiberglass car. Yay bodywork.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Honestly, I'm not that experienced at drag racing. Had the vette out a few times, the rustang, and a 383 powered iroc camaro. The mustang was scary. It was a handful. But not impossible.

    I've got more seat time at auto cross and on road courses, namely, Lime Rock. And the opposite is true there. Reason why most drives end up off the road or swapping ends, ratings cones, whatever is because they come in to a turn hard, late braking, loading the front, then getting on it to come out of the turn fast...the feel the slide...and lift. Which is, in a RWD car, the worst thing you can do. Don't lift. Finish the slide. One you lift, you get snap over stear. It's a hard instinct to fight. I've ended up facing the wrong way plenty of times. Pretty scary on open track day, even worse when it involves eating a cone in a fiberglass car. Yay bodywork.
    My taste has always been drag racing. Probably just because thats more of what we have in our area.
    Like ever one started street racing on the back roads and industrial areas in a 396 Chevelle I built in highschool.
    It was fun until it got to be 500 people coming out drinking beer and acting the ass to watch 4 or 5 guys run their cars.
    Then I built the MC and went alittle more pro about it.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    LT that I quoted mentioned only 1/4 Mile. No doubt to bring suspension, brakes up to equal for real driving would be a lot more. He mentioned 10 sec cars. Really, who only wants to "drive" for 10 sec. I never cared for drag personally.

    Drag and circle tracks are for fast cars, road courses are for fast drivers.
    It takes real skill to be a competent drag racer, too. Just...different. It's not easy, by any stretch.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    My taste has always been drag racing. Probably just because thats more of what we have in our area.
    Like ever one started street racing on the back roads and industrial areas in a 396 Chevelle I built in highschool.
    It was fun until it got to be 500 people coming out drinking beer and acting the ass to watch 4 or 5 guys run their cars.
    Then I built the MC and went alittle more pro about it.
    I got it from my dad. He was always into circuit racing...he liked watching the ALMS races, huge vette fan. So I got a vette as soon as I could afford one. When I was a kid, he took me carting a few times every summer. Great for really learning to drive. My first "race" car, if you could call it that, was a 92 civic with no interior, that me and a buddy swapped a 1.8 VTEC GSR motor and tranny into. First I ever set up, and honestly, I think that car had frame damage. Took it to 3 different shops a
    In FL, and never could get rid of a pretty bad pull to the right. But as long as you weren't going over 50, that car handled like a go cart, and had some decent pick up. I miss that car.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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