View Poll Results: What should happen for the over 20mph violation example given?

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  • Acknowledge the no-traffic and quality of vehicle in consideration.

    6 8.82%
  • Severe chastizing but only written warning.

    4 5.88%
  • A ticket, but written for under 20 over due to circumstance.

    2 2.94%
  • Write a ticket for over 20 mph but under 100 mph

    3 4.41%
  • Write a ticket forthe full 170 mph

    22 32.35%
  • A huge $$ fine

    15 22.06%
  • Permanently seize car and forfeture it.

    3 4.41%
  • Jail time

    3 4.41%
  • Suspend driver's license for 1 year

    7 10.29%
  • Suspend driver's license for years.

    3 4.41%
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Thread: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Quite

    The Nissan GTR with 545 hp, large tires all around, launch control and 4 wheel drive can hit the 1/4 mile in 10.8.

    I doubt a Dodge Challenger even with a supercharger is going to be able to hit 10.99 or less
    So the Nissan GTR is over twice the price of the Challenger. With the over 50K difference in price, it would be very easy to spend say 10k for a twin turbo and the nissan will never get near it. A 7 psi supercharger adds over 160 hp, witch pushes it much higher than the GTR. Again, less than 10K.

    A fairer comparison cost wise would be a Corvette ZR1, witch, depending on source runs either a 11.0 or a 10.89 1/4 mile and has been tested on skid pad up to 1.13g while a stock GRT is at 1.01 (nissan claims 1.12 but testing elsewhere doesn't get close to that).

    The only real advantage of the GTR is all-wheel-drive.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I actually just went to englishtown with a busy of mine, and his recently "finished" 88' rustang 5.0. Built motor, from the bottom up, over 8 grand in machine work alone, let alone in components, all said, probably 15 grand sunk in the motor. Rediculously high lift cam, horrible street manners. And a 200 shot of nitrous. On the spray, the car lays down 580 rwhp, which, for some on here, doesn't sound like much...but to have that sort of power to the wheels, he must be making real close to 700hp at the crank. Built tko600 tranny, built ford 9 inch rear end, traction bars, the whole deal. This car took us almost 7 years to build, and a LOT of his money. Car weights 3250 pounds, with him in it. At the track, he ran 275 slicks. Did mid 11 sec passes. Couldn't get traction, with either of us driving. Part of it was body flex, it's just really hard to eliminate in older cars, without going the tube frame rout. We're also going to have to roll the rear fenders so we can safely fit a larger wheel/tire combo, I figure it needs at LEAST 325s. He needs to find a set of 16x10.5 wheels with 4 inch back spacing. He still wants to drive the car on the street, which I won't do (it's a waste of gas, IMO), so he's keeping his 16x8.5s, to run a set of nitto 555s on. Still won't get traction at half throttle with those tires. But whatever.

    Last but not least, he needs a good auto tranny, which he is also not going to do, he likes the manual. Will that car ever make a 10 sec pass? Maybe. I don't know.

    When I hear kids talking about their 10 second civic or integra, I can't help but laugh. They just have no clue.
    I think they are using 1/8 mile tracks not 1/4 mile
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    We are also afraid of getting sued.
    And a mega jump in insurance premiums... and half a dozen trips to the body shop ... and driving some crappy rent car in the meantime ... and that the paint NEVER really matches so it always LOOKS wrecked .... and the lost value due to CarFax... and... and... and...

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    All factors must be considered...but still a hefty fine and one years loss of the RIGHT to drive.
    Perfect conditions exist not...in reality, particularly with the operator...If a professional driver, this would never have happened..
    Perhaps 90, for a short stretch, this I have done and I do not feel bad about it..
    Driving is both a right and a privilege, primarily a responsibility.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Heck, even my car, which is mild by comparison, can trick you if you're not carefull. And it "only" has about 300hp to the wheels...which is less than a new base model vette, less than a new camaro z28, less than an M3, less than a new mustang boss.

    And my vette has an after market suspension, massive weight reduction, modern tires, etc.



    170mph anywhere public is just stupid, and this is from a guy who has devoted a decent portion of his life to the pursuit of "faster".

    If you had said 120, 130, maybe even 140mph on the interstate in that vette, I'd be a lot more understanding. 140 is pushing it...170 is just not giving a **** about anyone around you. At 170mph, even if you manage to miss another car on that road doing 70-80, the air pressure you are creating will darn near push them off the road.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    The new challengers aren't solid axels? Man. I mean, the camaro, I knew about. Just never figured something like that would happen at Chrysler...
    Nope, IRS. Hot Rod did a Dana 60 centersection and CV axle up grade to one this month.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Quite

    The Nissan GTR with 545 hp, large tires all around, launch control and 4 wheel drive can hit the 1/4 mile in 10.8.

    I doubt a Dodge Challenger even with a supercharger is going to be able to hit 10.99 or less
    While I don't like it, the GTR is a very impressive car. Lighter weight. Low gearing. VERY fast.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I think they are using 1/8 mile tracks not 1/4 mile
    They do 1/8th, but they also do 1/4.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    10% of your last years income. I think this is a European concept but I can't remember which country.
    or
    12 hours in stocks with no food or water. You'll live but you won't speed again.
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    one lash of a cane (Singapore style). You'll live but you won't speed again.
    Hatred and extremism have no business in justice...
    We do need better driver training, and a better people...
    In other words, I am only groping as to a fitting and proper punishment.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    So the Nissan GTR is over twice the price of the Challenger. With the over 50K difference in price, it would be very easy to spend say 10k for a twin turbo and the nissan will never get near it. A 7 psi supercharger adds over 160 hp, witch pushes it much higher than the GTR. Again, less than 10K.

    A fairer comparison cost wise would be a Corvette ZR1, witch, depending on source runs either a 11.0 or a 10.89 1/4 mile and has been tested on skid pad up to 1.13g while a stock GRT is at 1.01 (nissan claims 1.12 but testing elsewhere doesn't get close to that).

    The only real advantage of the GTR is all-wheel-drive.

    In the end, "there ain't no replacement for displacement"
    It is the traction I am mainly discussing.

    The GTR has all wheel drive, larger tires, and launch control. It is among the fastest accelerating production cars on earth. I like the challenger, but it I doubt has the traction without some serious drag modifications like the Copo Camaro to be able to hit the 1/4 at less then 11 sec
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