View Poll Results: What should happen for the over 20mph violation example given?

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  • Acknowledge the no-traffic and quality of vehicle in consideration.

    6 8.82%
  • Severe chastizing but only written warning.

    4 5.88%
  • A ticket, but written for under 20 over due to circumstance.

    2 2.94%
  • Write a ticket for over 20 mph but under 100 mph

    3 4.41%
  • Write a ticket forthe full 170 mph

    22 32.35%
  • A huge $$ fine

    15 22.06%
  • Permanently seize car and forfeture it.

    3 4.41%
  • Jail time

    3 4.41%
  • Suspend driver's license for 1 year

    7 10.29%
  • Suspend driver's license for years.

    3 4.41%
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Thread: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I don't care what sort of road you are on, short of a closed course...170 mph is too fast in the US. You'd be hard pressed to get a ZR1 up to 170 on road Atlanta, let alone a PUBLIC highway. At 170 mph, you travel almost 280 feet per second. Each second. There is a reason why many German autobahn cruisers are governed to 155mph. Past a certain speed, you're just not safe for others around you, even if you're Mario Andretti. The ZR1 is a fast car, yes. But does anyone here know what starts to happen to the rubber in tires after 145mph? Or have any clue what happens when you touch the brakes at 150mph or higher?



    This guy should have his license revoked for a while.
    I don't think the roads are in good enough condition to drive that fast. Aren't politicians always crying about fixing the infrastructure? The roads should be redone from scratch.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Yank the car away. This person obviously does not deserve it. Only a fool stops at 170mph simply because they saw a cop.

    There's a video on youtube of a motorcycle doing 170 on an interstate as he passes a trooper in the median. The bike never slows down and makes a quick exit a minute or so later. That's how you do it.
    You are absolutely, the person does not DESERVE his car because he was speeding.

    What is your criteria for who deserves their car and who doesn't?

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    It is safer to watch Top Gear but not as fun.
    I really like the UK Top Gear. The USA one is weaker.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    These cars are designed to go that fast and have tires on them that make such speeds safe, as long as the road itself is safe for these speeds. I'm a firm believer in the basic rule, and so are some judges.

    I have never seen a freeway here in the states that I would trust going over 130 MPH.
    But to be fair the car could have picked up a nail in one of the tires on the way to the highway.

    In the real world you just never know.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A highway patrol car on a good condition 4 lane divided highway with a 70 mph speed limit, no other cars on the highway in a remote area picks up a sole car doing 170 mph heading his way on the other side empty and flat open area 2 lanes. A new Corette ZR 1 designed to go 200 mph. When the officer pulls across the center medium, the ZR1 driver (no passenger) pulls over anticipating being stopped.

    What should the officer do and what should the penalty be?

    Multiple choice, public vote.
    Maybe my world view is skewed by having only driven Hondas and Toyotas, but 170MPH? WTF?

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I have heard is it difficult and costly to get a license in Germany. Any idiot can get one in the USA. I'm surprised there aren't more accidents.
    The reason there are not as many accidents as could be in my opinion is that in general US drivers are actually quite polite. They not especially skillful in general just have better road manners than other countries. Drivers here are not near as willing to swap paint as say an Indian or Kuwaiti driver.
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You are absolutely, the person does not DESERVE his car because he was speeding.

    What is your criteria for who deserves their car and who doesn't?
    In an ancient and rapidly becoming forgot era, he deserves his car because he paid for it.

    Now the question is how fair was that to everyone else that he had a car like that AND how can the government get it for the government to sell and pocket the money or it to be a toy for ranking detectives to drive?

    Maybe to answer the OP I need to tell the driver's life history, his economic circumstance and how he came to afford the car before people can decide how much he doesn't deserve his ZR1.

    For example, if he is a super wealthy evil businessman, hell no he doesn't deserve it. BUT if he came up with the money because he sued a Home Depot store he claimed he slipped and fell in, then hell yes he deserves it and more, more, more. Only victims of life's unfairness "deserve" a car like that.
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Don't know on Japanese cars. Never had one do it, but then the only ones that I have had up to high enough speeds was a MRII Turbo and a Honda Prelude. Both manual and both sports cars. Also the only time I have ever owned a Japanese make was when I was stationed on Okinawa, not many places where you can get high enough to check it out.

    On American cars that I know of, type of trans doesn't matter. Most GMs require you to get the upgraded suspensions and tires also. My Z-28 doesn't have it, but then, it is a Z-28 with top of line, for stock, suspensions system and tires and is a manual. It can go above speedometer reading but available torque limits it to around 4200 rpms in 5th gear (approx 155) (prior to exhaust upgrade). When I looked at newer ones, suspension/tire options not trans options governed it. My 06 Monte Carlo SS with the V-8 and an auto didn't have it. Or if it did, it was set above 145.
    My '94 Z-28 Convertible was limited to 106 MPH. Maybe it was becvause it has R rated tires or because it was a convertible.

    My fathers Cadillac STS had no limiter, and I thought I had the sports car. He left me in the dust.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
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    Top Gear is awesome well the British version.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    I see two issues being discussed here: speed limits, and the enforcement of speed limits.

    We need to consider that establishing speed limits is not a cut-and-dry issue. There are multiple kinds of roads, all the way from rural interstate highways to residential streets. What speed a given type of road may need may vary from road to road. It can depend on a number of factors--number of lanes, lane width, typical visibility, 85th percentile speed, road curvature, etc.

    Some of you have mentioned the Autobahn. While Germany may have speed-limit-free limited access highways, keep in mind that they have a number of other, strictly-enforced laws on the Autobahn. One such rule is that passing on the right is strictly verboten. It does not matter how fast you want to go--you are not allowed to pass on the right, period. Also in Germany, most of the in-town roads have speed limits of 50 km/h, which is about 30 mph--quite a bit slower than the 40- and 35-mph zones we have in the States. And several of their residential neighborhoods have successfully lobbied for "30 zones," where the speed limit is reduced to 30 km/h, which is less than 20 mph.

    I think there needs to be a thorough review of our speed limits--urban, suburban, and rural. The key needs to be balancing the need for safety vs. the desire for shorter trip times. Specifically, I see no reason that four-lane urban roads should have a speed limit of 35. I think they would work fine with a 45-mph speed limit. And interstates should have a per-lane speed assignment, which can be signed every mile or so. And make minimum speeds actually make sense--a 40-mph speed minimum on an interstate highway is ridiculous.

    For example, they could try the following speed setup on a 4-lane-per-direction in-town interstate (numbers are maximum and minimum speeds, respectively):
    Right lane: 55-45 mph
    Center-right lane: 60-55 mph
    Center-left lane: 65-60 mph
    Left lane: 75-70 mph

    And on a two-lane, straight, flat, rural interstate, they could try:
    Right lane: 70-50 mph
    Left lane: No posted speed limit, but any driver driving under 75 must move to the right lane as soon as safely possible.

    Compromises need to be made between those who want to get from Point A to Point B about as fast as their car will take them, and those of us who want to survive the trip in one piece. Let's extend some freedoms without sacrificing too much safety.
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