View Poll Results: What should happen for the over 20mph violation example given?

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  • Acknowledge the no-traffic and quality of vehicle in consideration.

    6 8.82%
  • Severe chastizing but only written warning.

    4 5.88%
  • A ticket, but written for under 20 over due to circumstance.

    2 2.94%
  • Write a ticket for over 20 mph but under 100 mph

    3 4.41%
  • Write a ticket forthe full 170 mph

    22 32.35%
  • A huge $$ fine

    15 22.06%
  • Permanently seize car and forfeture it.

    3 4.41%
  • Jail time

    3 4.41%
  • Suspend driver's license for 1 year

    7 10.29%
  • Suspend driver's license for years.

    3 4.41%
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram View Post
    Camera's are replacing Cops. Camera's do not give any breaks.
    Nor care about safety or guilt. Cameras only are part of a computer system that demands money from people.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Damn those old folks for that crap of equal treatment under the law. Get the damn rich people! Take their money! I don't know why they don't run all remaining rich people and their companies out of the USA. That is being done TOO SLOWLY! No one should tolerate ANYONE who make more than a 5 figure income or drives a vehicle worth more than $30K. Everyone in the USA should have exactly the same income, exactly the same savings, the same size housing and exactly the same amount of money, plus identical value cars.
    I'm not sure what sparked the emotional outburst. It's about giving the penalty the same effect. You could fine that guy $500 a day or every time you caught him, and he wouldn't care. The Swiss way makes him much more likely to pay attention to his lawbreaking.
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    I'm not sure what sparked the emotional outburst. It's about giving the penalty the same effect. You could fine that guy $500 a day or every time you caught him, and he wouldn't care. The Swiss way makes him much more likely to pay attention to his lawbreaking.
    So you support discrimination?

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Nor care about safety or guilt. Cameras only are part of a computer system that demands money from people.
    Cameras are about revenue........and little else.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram View Post
    Camera's are replacing Cops. Camera's do not give any breaks.
    The gal who slammed into us on 880 an injured us (and others) in 2005 had "breaks" before. They didn't seem to help. Give breaks for 10 miles over the speed limit, not30,40,50 or 100.

    I am for more reasonable speed limits (yes, I mean higher) but if people wanna go 170 MPH on public roads......NO. Let them pay for track space.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    No, you are missing my point by declaring all of reality and all of laws are only about absolute black and white issues.

    I've often stated that "law" is NOT my god, everyone is a criminal many, many thousands of times over but just wasn't caught, and I look at "law" pragmatically in terms of benefits versus risks in terms of compliance.
    Nothing in life is black and white which is exactly the reason the law needs to be. It would be unworkable on a case-by-case basis.

    You're proposing anarchy where everyone does whatever they want. There's nothing limiting that principle to driving laws though. Theft, rape and murder all become fair game if the person doing them thinks they're OK. That'd be a mess.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    A very poorly written poll:

    (1) Posing 20mph over the limit in the question for an actual infraction of 70mph over the limit grossly understates the seriousness of the infraction. The penalty for driving 70mph over the limit should be much greater than the penalty for driving 20mph over.

    (2) Poll respondents should have been able to select more than one penalty.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Driving 70 mph over the limit should be a felony. Convicted violators should:

    (1) Spend at least a year in jail.

    (2) Have all their motor vehicles permanently confiscated.

    (3) Never be allowed to drive again.

    (4) Pay a big fine. The idea of of tailoring the fine to the violator's income sounds good to me-- make it at least a year's worth.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, CJ.

    The impoundment of vehicles and a license suspension seems a bit harsh if alcohol is not involved, but I bet it does cut down on repeat speeding. Does it?...

    We're due to get some snow Tues or Wed...
    Hi Lady P - it's pretty cold here today, compared to the last couple of weeks, but I haven't heard anything about snow - still well above freezing here.

    There have been some high profile cases - one in particular involved an older lady who claimed she was just trying to pass a truck - she actually got off too.

    I'm not really all that concerned about people losing the cars and licenses for a period of time - with people like this, their cars are very important to them and teaches them a lesson that a loss of money doesn't seem to do. I don't drink, except on rare occasions - I have an older car, although I do drive fast and hate slow drivers - but I just putter around the neighborhood now so it doesn't affect me much.
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    A very poorly written poll:

    (1) Posing 20mph over the limit in the question for an actual infraction of 70mph over the limit grossly understates the seriousness of the infraction. The penalty for driving 70mph over the limit should be much greater than the penalty for driving 20mph over.

    (2) Poll respondents should have been able to select more than one penalty.
    It was actually 100mph over the limit in his scenario. Although why the hell the driver stopped in that scenario, I dunno - the chances the cop could catch up were quite low.
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