View Poll Results: What should happen for the over 20mph violation example given?

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  • Acknowledge the no-traffic and quality of vehicle in consideration.

    6 8.82%
  • Severe chastizing but only written warning.

    4 5.88%
  • A ticket, but written for under 20 over due to circumstance.

    2 2.94%
  • Write a ticket for over 20 mph but under 100 mph

    3 4.41%
  • Write a ticket forthe full 170 mph

    22 32.35%
  • A huge $$ fine

    15 22.06%
  • Permanently seize car and forfeture it.

    3 4.41%
  • Jail time

    3 4.41%
  • Suspend driver's license for 1 year

    7 10.29%
  • Suspend driver's license for years.

    3 4.41%
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    250 kilometer/hour (145 MPH). That's it, unless you defeat the speed limiter.
    It's down to 145? Last I heard the greenies in the EU had it down to 155. Mercedes also has that limiter on USA imports too.

    The '05 Renntech/AMG CL65 my wife got me is of the '05-06 65 series, which arguably is the highest top speed Mercedes ever made. Then, it was computer limited to 186 mph and the computer also reduced horsepower and torque by 15%. The price - then and now - to eliminate Mercedes speed and power limiters is around $3500 and MOST who buy Mercedes top-end cars pay it. A few also buy what it takes to take Mercedes, BMW, Audi etc motors back UP to the power they were built to have via companies such as Eurotech, Renntech, Classen, etc. For the early 65 series, it allows top speeds in the 220 mph range.

    In the era of Jimmy Carter's "The energy crisis is REAL!!! It is NOW!!!", it became illegal to have speedometers in cars that showed more than 85 mph and most cars were computer limited to under 100 mph. This was the final nail in the coffins of American manufacturers and when imports captured and since have held the American market. So American manufacturers instead focused on pickup trucks and big SUVs, which are not high speed in general.

    It was not until American manufacturers FINALLY started putting power back in their cars that they started to make a come-back. The horsepower wars of manufacturers are back on, getting VERY serious, and one result is sales are going up.

    It is just bizarre that it was considered safe to drive a 1950s car 70 mph - when they had horrible brakes, dangerous tires, terrible suspensions and basically no safety in their design - and the same speed limit on open highways should apply to modern cars with ABS disc brakes, vast amounts of safety in design, air bags, computer designed and managed suspension and on and on. Driving across the Western desert limited to 70 mph is absurd. In all non-urban areas the speed limit should be raised to at least 85.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Even if it damages the financial stability of an Insurance company..

    Does that include any illicit drug or illicit consensual act ?
    The financial stability of an Insurance company? Yes, reducing the number of tickets given would cost insurance companies money.

    I can see exceptions, but there are few in terms of self endangerment.

    Which is more self endangering? Driving 170 in a car built for 200 on an empty flat highway? Or rock climbing?

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    That's the point of a long lonely road, there is NOBODY. The only people your going to kill is yourself, and or the occasional cow. It would most likely literally be hours before your FUBAR circus was found. Speeding however fast is no reason to put anyone in jail. That's a waste of resources.

    Pro driving tip. Don't ever hit a cow or any other animal that size straight on. Its the equivalent of a four legged wall. There is NO give.
    Anyone whose seen a car going highway speeds that hit a full sized hog fully understands.

    Although rare, people have died hitting a deer - usually from an antler coming thru the windshield into the driver's or passenger's chest.

    But people have been speared and died while big-game offshore fishing too.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Why are you threatening me because I disagree with you politically?

    You know falling bullets can hurt people and damage property all over my neighborhood. Best case scenario, you're littering.


    Meanwhile someone driving along a road not hitting anyone is not hurting anyone...
    Short of 50 cal, it has been proven that falling bullets don't hurt anyone. While shots out at an angle can, but a bullet shot straight up can not fall with enough speed to be significantly harmful.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    I bet the same people that voted for giving a guy the full ticket are the same ones that drive in the left lane on an interstate doing the speed limit.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I bet the same people that voted for giving a guy the full ticket are the same ones that drive in the left lane on an interstate doing the speed limit.
    Nope, left lane is for 75 or above, imo. I just think the only controlled place is a track, and if he can afford that car, he can afford to lease a track for an hour or two. It's not that expensive, and if you have really cool car, sometimes free.
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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    cops speed excessively all the time while talking on their phones
    you mean in emergency situations, or that cops are just speeding around at 170 shooting the ****?

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The financial stability of an Insurance company? Yes, reducing the number of tickets given would cost insurance companies money.

    I can see exceptions, but there are few in terms of self endangerment.

    Which is more self endangering? Driving 170 in a car built for 200 on an empty flat highway? Or rock climbing?
    well, the obvious point is that rock climbing doesn't put other people in danger. Driving at 170 does, even if you assume the road is empty (which you have no basis for)

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Generally, since I believe in personal freedom, I do NOT think endangering yourself should be against the law. Under the theory that it should be? Basically everything but saying inside a padded cubical, eating vitamin enriched tofu and drinking sterilized water should be criminal.

    The CORE of freedom should be that you can do any damn thing you want provided it does not substantively endanger others.
    I think you missed my core point. You're saying it's OK for anyone to break the law if they think it's not dangerous to anyone else.

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    Re: What should be penalty for 20mph+ over limit speeding?

    Literally over 100,000 Americans have died in motorcycle road accidents. Many times more than that seriously and permanent injured.

    Shouldn't it be criminal to drive a motorcycle on roads?

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