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    Should the Tea Party split from the Rebublican Party

    With the recent brutal fight over the Borrowing limit and funding the ACA and another fight just around the corner would this be a good time for the Tea Party to create their own Party? I think they would draw people from both the Republican and Democratic parties. And if the public support is as large as they think it is then how could they go wrong. They have some of their own corp. donors. They could have their own platform and not have to piggy back off the GOP.
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    Re: Should the Tea Party split from the Rebublican Party

    I sure wish they would. Quickly...

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    Re: Should the Tea Party split from the Rebublican Party

    I wish they would too. It won't happen. We'll see . . . maybe big donor money dries up. Even they got hurt this time. According to them. We'll see. I'd love to see a real Republican Party again. I'd love to see it.

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    Re: Should the Tea Party split from the Rebublican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    With the recent brutal fight over the Borrowing limit and funding the ACA and another fight just around the corner would this be a good time for the Tea Party to create their own Party? I think they would draw people from both the Republican and Democratic parties. And if the public support is as large as they think it is then how could they go wrong. They have some of their own corp. donors. They could have their own platform and not have to piggy back off the GOP.
    Maybe they should, but I do not think the party would last long on its own. There was a reason they joined the ranks of the republican party instead of forming their own party prior to 2010. If my recollection is right on a news report the other day, there are about 50 tea party house members out of 233 and 6 in the senate out of 45 senate republicans. Undoubtedly, if they broke away, some of these would get re-elected but I do not think it would be many. Most of these tea partyers came in from fairly safe districts, but if they broke away then they would be up against a Republican and a Democratic candidate and by splitting the vote, quiet a few Democrats would win in districts before the split they had no business winning. Then they would also be on their own for raising money, the RNC wouldn't be giving them campaign money and most of the corporate and wall street type donors wouldn't either. Corporations and Wall Street firms want to back winners and that is why they donate most of their money to incumbents regardless of party. They also wouldn't care to have to split their donation three ways instead of two.

    I also think the tea party which brought about the nominations of Aiken over Steelman in Missouri and Mourdock over Luger in Indiana were the main reason the Republicans lost those states. Both Steelman and Luger would have won easily. If the tea party costs the republicans more seats in 2014, the republican party may start thinking about getting rid of the tea party.
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    Re: Should the Tea Party split from the Rebublican Party

    They should replace the liberal Republicans with an army of Cruz and Lee.
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    Re: Should the Tea Party split from the Rebublican Party

    That would severely decrease the influence of Republicans and Tea Partiers.
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    Re: Should the Tea Party split from the Rebublican Party

    If the Tea Party splits from the Republican Party, we'll see a lot more Democrats winning races.
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    Re: Should the Tea Party split from the Rebublican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    That would severely decrease the influence of Republicans and Tea Partiers.
    Yes it would. But what good is the tea party doing republicans when they primary winnable candidates out in favor of their who lose in the general. Aiken and Mourdock come to mind. Luger and Steelman would have won for the GOP. One has to remember that to win in most states, a certain number of independents must be obtained. I live in Georgia and a nomination of a broun or gingrey, tea party candidates for senate, both would lose to Michelle Nunn. Ky is another where Grimes, McConnell challenger as it looks now has won statewide races there. Put Grimes up against a tea party candidate Bevin and another seat goes to the Dems.

    The tea party needs to work within the Republican Party or go their own way.
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    Re: Should the Tea Party split from the Rebublican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Yes it would. But what good is the tea party doing republicans when they primary winnable candidates out in favor of their who lose in the general. Aiken and Mourdock come to mind. Luger and Steelman would have won for the GOP. One has to remember that to win in most states, a certain number of independents must be obtained. I live in Georgia and a nomination of a broun or gingrey, tea party candidates for senate, both would lose to Michelle Nunn. Ky is another where Grimes, McConnell challenger as it looks now has won statewide races there. Put Grimes up against a tea party candidate Bevin and another seat goes to the Dems.

    The tea party needs to work within the Republican Party or go their own way.
    I agree with that, but it would be even worse if they were actually running candidates against each other in general elections. Sure Nunn would probably win Nunn/Broun. But she would definitely win something like Nunn/Broun/Kingston and Grimes would definitely win Grimes/McConnell/Bevin. I think its better to have the ideological fights in the primary, rather than the general election.
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    Re: Should the Tea Party split from the Rebublican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    I agree with that, but it would be even worse if they were actually running candidates against each other in general elections. Sure Nunn would probably win Nunn/Broun. But she would definitely win something like Nunn/Broun/Kingston and Grimes would definitely win Grimes/McConnell/Bevin. I think its better to have the ideological fights in the primary, rather than the general election.
    You're right, in a three way the Dem would win. But how many more years will the Republican Party be willing to have a Mourdock replace a shoe in like Luger in Indiana. You had Aiken where you are, What's her name, don't you think Steelman I think could have fairly easily beaten McCaskill? Inside of the Missouri poll on the senate race there they had an approval rating for the two candidates, McCaskill disapproval rating was at 60%, Aiken's at 70% about a week prior to the election. House district races are a bit different as in a lot of districts the way they are drawn, independents mean nothing.

    But how many times do you think the GOP will put up with a candidate that could win a certain state being primaried out by one that is a certain loser in the primary? They better come to an agreement and be able to live with each other or split.
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