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    re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    I would simply stay at home, and continue to not care about the overplayed non-issue that is SSM.
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    re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    I would vote against discrimination, but not for marriage.

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Ok for some fantasy reason there's going to be a national vote on equal rights for gays.

    Save me all the failed arguments that its not equal rights or it should be left to the states or the government should be out of it all together blah blah blah nonsense, thats in other threads. This is simply about how YOU would vote if this happened.

    and yes for the conspiracy theorist out there we will waste time and double down on the first amendment and say of course churches cant be forced to do these legal marriages, even though it has nothing to do with them anyway and this already cant happen.

    so there it is, its voting time, what do you do.

    Yes - you think gays should have equal rights and the right to legal marriage
    No - you dont think they should have equal rights and you want them banned from getting legal marriage.
    No vote - you stay home and dont vote at all
    Im a libertarian, so I already think that two consenting adults can enter into whatever contract they choose. However, I would not vote to give the federal govt the power to decide what is and isnt 'marriage'. The federal govt only needs to be concerned with defending our lives and freedom. That goes for state govts too. Marriage is a social choice, nothing to do with govt.

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Vote No - denying equal rights and banning them banned from getting legal marriage.
    Is it just me, or is this really a "No" vote?

    It seems to me if you're going to ban someone from being banned from getting legally married, you're voting 'Yes' on allowing them to get legally married.

    Btw - how is this an "equal rights" issue in the first place? (meh, awaiting the stock answer...)
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    If the shoe fits.
    Sometimes the shoe doesn't really fit, but others keep insisting a person try it on.

    In the case of gay rights, there is certainly no shortage of homophobic douchebags in the world, and some of them certainly find their way into this forum, but I think it prudent to distinguish between the homophobes and those who might happen to take political positions that aren't quite fully in line with one's own.
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    However, I would not vote to give the federal govt the power to decide what is and isnt 'marriage'. The federal govt only needs to be concerned with defending our lives and freedom. That goes for state govts too. Marriage is a social choice, nothing to do with govt.
    This is a cop-out to the question though.

    OBVIOUSLY the government is completely and totally involved and intertwined with marriage.
    Medically, legally, and financially.

    The question isn't about removing the government from marriage.
    It's simply about allowing everybody to have equal access to what already exists.

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Kind of weighted the poll choices there, J.
    Nothing in the poll choices is weighted.

    Pretty straight forward and honest.

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Nothing in the poll choices is weighted.

    Pretty straight forward and honest.
    I think it depends on the purpose of the poll. If the intent is genuine interest in people's opinions (which is usually why I start a poll), then adding a bunch of superflous language about how they're anti equal rights for everybody will not get you that. You cannot presume motive in your poll choices if you're interested in honest opinion. If however, the poll itself is to make a point and the real intent is to get others to choose the right option, then that's cool too. Let's just be real about the purpose is all I'm saying.

    BTW, I'm not at all saying that J has been dishonest about his intent. On the contrary, he's been very open about which choices he thinks are the right ones, so I have no issue with this poll.

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Ok for some fantasy reason there's going to be a national vote on equal rights for gays.

    Save me all the failed arguments that its not equal rights or it should be left to the states or the government should be out of it all together blah blah blah nonsense, thats in other threads. This is simply about how YOU would vote if this happened.

    and yes for the conspiracy theorist out there we will waste time and double down on the first amendment and say of course churches cant be forced to do these legal marriages, even though it has nothing to do with them anyway and this already cant happen.

    so there it is, its voting time, what do you do.

    Yes - you think gays should have equal rights and the right to legal marriage
    No - you dont think they should have equal rights and you want them banned from getting legal marriage.
    No vote - you stay home and dont vote at all
    I would not vote, as that ballot initiative would be far to vague and open to far too much interpretation for me to vote for it with a clear mind. "Equal rights" without it spelling out what rights are being talked about and how is problematic as I've seen far too many times on all sides where people consider things "rights" that I in no way believe are.

    If it was just a vote on marriage, I'd vote in favor of it as I believe our current law is unconstitutional. My preference would be to remove it completely and simply have two people civil unions as part of the law; but in your hypothetical, I'd vote to make our laws constitutional in my mind.

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