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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It has everything to do with family relationships because spouse is a legal family relationship, that once established, is the closest legal relationship that a person can make. In fact, marriages establish more than just two legal relationships of spouse between the couple, but also establish other relationships between the spouses and relatives of those spouses in the form of inlaws.

    Marriage now is a contract that establishes a familial relationship. It is quite similar to the birth certificate or adoption paperwork.

    The most efficient governmental institution is marriage. It can establish legal kinship for many people on just a single piece of paper, the marriage license and it clears up plenty of legal issues without extra legal paperwork being made up for millions (if not more) people within the US.
    I disagree. While what you say about the legal side may be true....it's certainly not necessary at all for solid positive family relationships.

    Those have existed forever with or without legal recognition.

    What it does provide is protection for children in the event the family breaks up due to divorce, death, etc. And that is important and valid IMO.
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    There's this fancy new invention called a "joke." I was just debuting one so that people like you might hear about it, along with the other revolutionalry concepts of "bullsh*t apologies" and "sarcasm." My bad. I'll definitely make this mistake again, regardless of your dry, flavorless personality.
    Yes because sarcasm translates perfectly in type and no one on this forum ever says the exact same thing you did with 100% seriousness (this was sarcasm just fyi)

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do [W:72,96

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Ok for some fantasy reason there's going to be a national vote on equal rights for gays.

    Save me all the failed arguments that its not equal rights or it should be left to the states or the government should be out of it all together blah blah blah nonsense, thats in other threads. This is simply about how YOU would vote if this happened.

    and yes for the conspiracy theorist out there we will waste time and double down on the first amendment and say of course churches cant be forced to do these legal marriages, even though it has nothing to do with them anyway and this already cant happen.

    so there it is, its voting time, what do you do.

    Yes - you think gays should have equal rights and the right to legal marriage
    No - you dont think they should have equal rights and you want them banned from getting legal marriage.
    No vote - you stay home and dont vote at all
    Without knowing more precisely what was in the bill, I can't even make the decision to not even vote. While the brief description sounds good, too many times the actual contents suck such as Patriot Act and ACA.
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    How would it destroy family relationships if the 'govt.' didnt recognize them?
    The government is where legal family recognition comes from. I was not referring to the emotional relationships being destroyed, but rather the legal strength of the relationships. Inheritance, hospital visitation, notification of kin, decision making, and many other things are based on legal recognition of familial relationships.
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I disagree. While what you say about the legal side may be true....it's certainly not necessary at all for solid positive family relationships.

    Those have existed forever with or without legal recognition.

    What it does provide is protection for children in the event the family breaks up due to divorce, death, etc. And that is important and valid IMO.
    You are assuming I am speaking about the emotional relationship between families, but I'm not. I'm speaking about the legal relationship families have. That is what is going to be the problem if we had no more legal/government recognition of family relationships.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do [W:72,96

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Without knowing more precisely what was in the bill, I can't even make the decision to not even vote. While the brief description sounds good, too many times the actual contents suck such as Patriot Act and ACA.
    LOL thats a very good reality based point
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth
    There's this fancy new invention called a "joke." I was just debuting one so that people like you might hear about it, along with the other revolutionalry concepts of "bullsh*t apologies" and "sarcasm." My bad. I'll definitely make this mistake again, regardless of your dry, flavorless personality.
    Yes because sarcasm translates perfectly in type and no one on this forum ever says the exact same thing you did with 100% seriousness (this was sarcasm just fyi)
    I wasn't being sarcastic that first time. My response to your misinterpretation was definitely sarcasm, however. But thinks for pointing out your own sarcasm so blatantly. I am clearly your intellectual inferior, and would otherwise be unable to use my tiny, underdeveloped brain to figure out that you're being sarcastic.
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Marriage is not a right. So your poll is skewed.

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Marriage is not a right. So your poll is skewed.
    Interesting opinion. Care to explain your reasoning for that statement?
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    I wasn't being sarcastic that first time. My response to your misinterpretation was definitely sarcasm, however. But thinks for pointing out your own sarcasm so blatantly. I am clearly your intellectual inferior, and would otherwise be unable to use my tiny, underdeveloped brain to figure out that you're being sarcastic.
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