how many states banned it by public vote
why is legislation an indicator of how voting would turn out?
better question, why do you think legislation is a better indicator then public polling about the topic?
why is legislation a good indicator since we have factual evidence that legislation has gone against what public vote as been?
uhm also you said o to 32 in 12 years? please tell me what is in the 0 column?
Not denying that at all, of course a decade ago 30+ states banned same sex civil marriage.
What you seem to be running away from is your statement that 99% of the states with same sex civil marriage now are a result of judge actions.
That was false. 33% were based on Judicial action, 66% per passed by the peoples legislatures and by the people themselves at the ballot box. But you don't address that and simply say "I was wrong", you deflect to first to Iowa ("Huh? what do you call legislative...As and example activist judges In Iowa approved Gay marriage...") when Iowa was not cited as a legislative passage. And now you are going on about the 30 states that banned it a decade ago.
The undeniable fact is that 2/3rds of the States with same sex civil marriage did not get it because of a judges decision.
As a matter of fact the Constitution itself says that rights held by the people need not be enumerated in the Constitution.
And while the Constitution does not list marriage as a right, it does state that all citizens of a State are due Due Process and the Equal Protections of the laws.
History isn't necessarily a good indicator of voter actions today.
I always disagreed with the decision to challenge Prop 8 in the courts. In California Prop 22 (2000, Statutory Law) passed at the ballot box with, IIRC, a 23% margin of victory. However just 8 years later Prop 8 (2008, Constitutional Amendment) barely squeaked by where only a 2.5% shift would have changed the outcome. If instead of a court challenged if proponents of SSCM had put it back on the ballot in 2012 it would have passed.
Then there is the case of Maine, they voted at the polls against it in 2009 and in 2012 the voters reversed that decision and SSCM is now legal in Maine.
True there are some people that would never change their vote, but we aren't talking about individuals we are talking about voter demographics which shift - things are not written in stone in the ballot box. Take a look at, IIRC, Alabama. Loving v. Virginia made anti-interracial marriage bans unconstitutional, however it doesn't change the text "on the books" or in various State Constitutions. In 2000 Alabama voted to amend it's Constitution to remove such a ban. The sad thing is that 40% of the vote was to keep the language.
The great majority of those bans were not over 12 years, they occurred in the 2000-2006 time frame. One or two before that, one or two since. So the votes in a great majority of the states was a decade ago.
Not saying that in those States SSCM would pass now, it probably wouldn't. But a decade ago the margins of victory were 25-76%. By 2008/2009 Prop 8 (CA) and Question 1 (ME) squeaked by where only a 2.5% shift would have changed the outcome. In the elections of 2012 4 states had SSCM on the ballot and it won in all 4.
Time moves on and opinions change.
16 states and DC have equal rights:
California - June 28, 2013
Connecticut - November 12, 2008
Delaware - July 1, 2013
Hawaii - December 2, 2013 effective
Illinois - June 1, 2014 effective
Iowa - April 27, 2009
Maine - December 29, 2012
Maryland - January 1, 2013
Massachusetts - May 17, 2004
Minnesota - August 1, 2013
New Hampshire - January 1, 2010
New Jersey - October 21, 2013
New York - July 24, 2011
Rhode Island - August 1, 2013
Vermont - September 1, 2009
Washington - December 6, 2012
16 more are in various stages of fighting or establishing a fight for equal rights
New Mexico – is granting equal rights for now and the SSC is going to decided on this soon
Court Case(s) in the works to establish equal rights:
Michigan (Feb Trial)
Pennsylvania (June Trial)
Court Case(s) and Legislation in the works, which ever wins first:
Ohio (December 2013 trial)
Legislation in the works:
thats 32 states that could have equal rights by 2015 and some much sooner!