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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Did you even read the title or look at my link?

    Are you denying that 30 some states have banned SSM? come on.
    yes we all did and obviously you did not

    we are still waiting for the list of states that had a public vote to ban it

    heck you dont even have to name them, tell us had many had a public vote to ban it
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    If history is any indicator 32 states would vote against it. Thank goodness for judicial activism. You really are better off NOT putting it to a vote...thats a losing proposition.

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    If history is any indicator 32 states would vote against it. Thank goodness for judicial activism. You really are better off NOT putting it to a vote...thats a losing proposition.

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    History? You havent mentionded any relevant history to the question.

    so how many of those states had a public vote and banned it?
    why is legislation an indicator of how voting would turn out?

    better question, why do you think legislation is a better indicator then public polling about the topic?


    and are you away that at least one state had a public vote but the legislation banned it anyway?
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    History? You havent mentionded any relevant history to the question.

    so how many of those states had a public vote and banned it?
    why is legislation an indicator of how voting would turn out?

    better question, why do you think legislation is a better indicator then public polling about the topic?


    and are you away that at least one state had a public vote but the legislation banned it anyway?
    Well...see...the constituents...the 'people'...vote for these people called representatives. Now...SOME representatives spend a good majority of their time in the back of state owned limos snorting cocaine and voting 'present'...but the vast majority of them actually bother to vote. And when they do, they typically vote the will of the people.

    If you held a national referendum on your favorite cause you would get buried. You should really stick to the way things have been going. Seriously...it will eventually be overturned by the Supreme Court and when it does it will be the law of the land. Until then...

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    1.)Well...see...the constituents...the 'people'...vote for these people called representatives. Now...SOME representatives spend a good majority of their time in the back of state owned limos snorting cocaine and voting 'present'...but the vast majority of them actually bother to vote. And when they do, they typically vote the will of the people.

    2.)If you held a national referendum on your favorite cause you would get buried.

    3.)You should really stick to the way things have been going.
    4.)Seriously...it will eventually be overturned by the Supreme Court and when it does it will be the law of the land. Until then...
    1.) weird that doesnt answer the question at all and is NOTHING like a public vote.

    but your account of what they are supposed to do is accurate and funny

    2.) lose? maybe
    buried? never

    but im not pushing for a national vote, people dont get to vote on equal rights the poll is just to see how people feel but i would WELCOME a vote because with or without it equal rights for gays is going to be national in my life time easily.

    Its also not my favorite clause, its just the one that is winning the most right now and dramatically changing. A week doesnt seem to go by without some small victory in the battles that are going to win the war.

    3.) i am but a national vote would scare me one bit, id be fine with it because like i said with or without equal rights for gays is coming.
    4.) Yes i know, eventually SCOTUS will grant equal rights for gays nationally

    ANyway theres a clear point to my question that doesnt relly involve you, somebody squawked the there were all these public votes on the issue and it lost allllll these times so my question how many states did a public vote to ban it.

    but YOU dont have to answer.
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) weird that doesnt answer the question at all and is NOTHING like a public vote.

    but your account of what they are supposed to do is accurate and funny

    2.) lose? maybe
    buried? never

    but im not pushing for a national vote, people dont get to vote on equal rights the poll is just to see how people feel but i would WELCOME a vote because with or without it equal rights for gays is going to be national in my life time easily.

    Its also not my favorite clause, its just the one that is winning the most right now and dramatically changing. A week doesnt seem to go by without some small victory in the battles that are going to win the war.

    3.) i am but a national vote would scare me one bit, id be fine with it because like i said with or without equal rights for gays is coming.
    4.) Yes i know, eventually SCOTUS will grant equal rights for gays nationally

    ANyway theres a clear point to my question that doesnt relly involve you, somebody squawked the there were all these public votes on the issue and it lost allllll these times so my question how many states did a public vote to ban it.

    but YOU dont have to answer.
    No...what is funny is your continued pretense that the spread of gay marriage bans that began in 1998 to current day and has resulted in bans in 32 states somehow DOESNT represent the will of the majority of the people. But I get it. The facts dont represent what you want, therefore they must be wrong.

    1996...0 states with some form of ban on gay marriages. 2012...32

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    1.)No...what is funny is your continued pretense that the spread of gay marriage bans that began in 1998 to current day and has resulted in bans in 32 states somehow DOESNT represent the will of the majority of the people. But I get it. The facts dont represent what you want, therefore they must be wrong.

    2.)1996...0 states with some form of ban on gay marriages. 2012...32
    1.) currently it factually does not thats a fact you cant change and polls prove that fact

    2.) yep fear and wanting acceptance from squeaky wheels is an awesome tool.

    It funny you want to use history as a argument and ignore the 1000s of things that got accomplished by the drive of a minority or squeaky wheel or people with the most money to push. Nah that NEVER happens lol

    Sorry ill stick with facts reality and the poll numbers, many many poll numbers.
    Could equal rights lose? yes would it get buried? theres ZERO evidence and facts to support that.

    i guess you are bailing on the states question too then, thats cool.
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) currently it factually does not thats a fact you cant change and polls prove that fact

    2.) yep fear and wanting acceptance from squeaky wheels is an awesome tool.

    It funny you want to use history as a argument and ignore the 1000s of things that got accomplished by the drive of a minority or squeaky wheel or people with the most money to push. Nah that NEVER happens lol

    Sorry ill stick with facts reality and the poll numbers, many many poll numbers.
    Could equal rights lose? yes would it get buried? theres ZERO evidence and facts to support that.

    i guess you are bailing on the states question too then, thats cool.
    Polls...the fools refuge. Go ahead...put it up for a national vote.
    What I am doing is not playing your stupid game. I am posting the facts. From 1998 til current the states have gone from 0-32 laws and constitutional amendments banning gay marriage. In the light of that undeniable fact, your reply is "unuh...thats not what it REALLY means..." Yes...it IS. Without judicial intervention there would be..what...2 out of 50 states that allow gay marriage.

    But...but...but the POLLS say.....

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    1.)Polls...the fools refuge.
    2.)Go ahead...put it up for a national vote.
    3.) What I am doing is not playing your stupid game. I am posting the facts.
    4.) From 1998 til current the states have gone from 0-32 laws and constitutional amendments banning gay marriage.
    5.) In the light of that undeniable fact,
    6..) your reply is "unuh...thats not what it REALLY means..." Yes...it IS.
    7.) Without judicial intervention there would be..what...2 out of 50 states that allow gay marriage.
    8.)But...but...but the POLLS say.....
    1.) AWESOME, throw out evidence you dont like out the window lol
    2.) Id have no problem doing that has i said twice in last post and ill repeat in this post especially since with or without it equal rights is coming
    3.) facts that have no factully impact to the question

    hey i can post facts to, My car is blue!!! thats as meaniful as your facts were to this topic

    4.) yes you mentioned that before but have given zero reason why that is a better indicator than many many national polls

    5.) nope that fact doesnt bother me at all nor is it unfavorably, actually if you keep up I have said MANY times im very happy those states banned it because its the ban that is going to make gay rights EASIER and already has in states

    6.) posting a lie wont help you, i never even come close to doing that i simply asked you how you think that is relevant to my question and more relevant that the polls. But please feel free to make up more failed arguments. it only further exposes you lol.

    8.) that doesnt matter to the topic of PUBLIC VOTE which was the question even further proved how legislation as factually gone against a public vote.

    9.) exactly because that is the closes thing to public vote

    thank you for proving my point and yourself wrong that was awesome!

    let me know when you can answer the building up questions now instead of dodging them

    how many states banned it by public vote
    why is legislation an indicator of how voting would turn out?
    better question, why do you think legislation is a better indicator then public polling about the topic?
    why is legislation a good indicator since we have factual evidence that legislation has gone againt what public vote as been?

    what was that cool line you thought you had?

    but but but legislation . . . .

    to funny!
    let me know when you are ready to answer, so much anger brought on by the fear and or disgust of equality its funny.
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) AWESOME, throw out evidence you dont like out the window lol
    2.) Id have no problem doing that has i said twice in last post and ill repeat in this post especially since with or without it equal rights is coming
    3.) facts that have no factully impact to the question

    hey i can post facts to, My car is blue!!! thats as meaniful as your facts were to this topic

    4.) yes you mentioned that before but have given zero reason why that is a better indicator than many many national polls

    5.) nope that fact doesnt bother me at all nor is it unfavorably, actually if you keep up I have said MANY times im very happy those states banned it because its the ban that is going to make gay rights EASIER and already has in states

    6.) posting a lie wont help you, i never even come close to doing that i simply asked you how you think that is relevant to my question and more relevant that the polls. But please feel free to make up more failed arguments. it only further exposes you lol.

    8.) that doesnt matter to the topic of PUBLIC VOTE which was the question even further proved how legislation as factually gone against a public vote.

    9.) exactly because that is the closes thing to public vote

    thank you for proving my point and yourself wrong that was awesome!

    let me know when you can answer the building up questions now instead of dodging them

    how many states banned it by public vote
    why is legislation an indicator of how voting would turn out?
    better question, why do you think legislation is a better indicator then public polling about the topic?
    why is legislation a good indicator since we have factual evidence that legislation has gone againt what public vote as been?

    what was that cool line you thought you had?

    but but but legislation . . . .

    to funny!
    let me know when you are ready to answer, so much anger brought on by the fear and or disgust of equality its funny.
    TLDR...but its fun watching you go through your conniptions. Especially the part where you want to pretend I'm 'angry. Hell son...Im having fun. Its funny to me to see you try so hard to ignore the facts.

    But...but...the polls! Look at the polls! Ignore the fact that 32 states have passed legislation against gay marriage in the last 12 years. The polls!!!

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