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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do [W:72,96

    See my point yet? Yes you will come back and say the same circle of contribution is happening everyday but not to the tune of an immediate 80 billion dollars a year load that the first year of Gay Marriage will burden the system. Have you also thought of the litigation back log of past Gays against the Government for back pay? Ask yourself,,,,,,doe's the Government and SS have tort immunity against such litigation?

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do [W:72,96

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram View Post
    But,,,,Marriage is not based on the taxpayer base and legality longevity of superficial love! It is based on how much the two contribute in the form of taxation and wealth distribution to THEIR future. You see with the Gay Marriage SS drain,,,,,,,it will burden an already very weak and likely unsustainable system. I think to the tune of billions added each year for those who have not paid in what the Historical Marriage definition has contributed in the past to sustain it.
    Too bad? I don't think anyone is interested in this horrible straw-grasping. There's plenty of hetero couples that do the same thing you're saying gay people would do.
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do [W:72,96

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram View Post
    I think it snowball into more than 5% in the future if allowed to continue. Yes I do see a problem because SS was not intended for Brothers to get married and draw on their Brother,,it was intended for Husband and Wife.

    The whole idea of getting a piece of pie is based on there being a Pie to get a slice from,,with everybody no matter the sex and no matter the Consanguinity eating Pie,,,there will soon none left for anyone,,,,see the perpetual becoming a stop sign?
    Gay people contribute to SS too. It comes right out of their paycheck, and what are you saying, they shouldn't be allowed to benefit from what they contribute? That is blatant discrimination. Or should a gay guy marry your daughter, since that way he can have SS benefits (since those benefits is the "gay agenda" according to you)? Why's it so hard to accept two people would marry out of love?

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do [W:72,96

    You may not have thought of such complications but believe me,,,,,they are real! I can guarantee you that Congress has thought of it,,so has the POTUS,,,,,He certainly doe's not seem to mind the spending but for the sake of his determined transformation of America,,each change will cost the Taxpayer a lot of money,,and to get that money,,we have to borrow it right? Now Gay Marriage is much more far reaching than just two guys wanting to get married because the love each other,,,,,,,it has monetary ramifications on the way of life for every American.

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do [W:72,96

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram View Post
    See my point yet? Yes you will come back and say the same circle of contribution is happening everyday but not to the tune of an immediate 80 billion dollars a year load that the first year of Gay Marriage will burden the system. Have you also thought of the litigation back log of past Gays against the Government for back pay? Ask yourself,,,,,,doe's the Government and SS have tort immunity against such litigation?
    I have never heard of this "back pay" argument, but if so, it's from damages. They have been ****ed over - at least compared to hetero couples - for decades in some cases, and now they're coming to collect. That's how it goes when you discriminate.

    The federal government blew over 10x this on useless wars recently. I think it will manage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    I have never heard of this "back pay" argument, but if so, it's from damages. They have been ****ed over - at least compared to hetero couples - for decades in some cases, and now they're coming to collect. That's how it goes when you discriminate.
    No,,,that is how it go's when 5% of the population tries to change the system! Sorry,,,,but the truth is the truth! It really is about money,,

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do [W:72,96

    Now I am waiting on the slavery reference,,is it coming? THAT comparison would definitely be off topic and the Mod would be appropriate to admonish it..

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    "The federal government blew over 10x this on useless wars recently. I think it will manage." quote

    Nope,,,wrong again! The children of Hetero couples will manage the burden for years to come with taxation to try and pay the deficit that Government spending creates...sorry again but true!

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do [W:72,96

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram View Post
    No,,,that is how it go's when 5% of the population tries to change the system! Sorry,,,,but the truth is the truth! It really is about money,,
    Yeah these couples in NJ who have been together since 1989 totally hooked up for the money Even when back then they had no idea they'd have the opportunity to marry. Is the hang up you are just afraid to admit people of the same sex can actually love each other?

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do [W:72,96

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram View Post
    Now I am waiting on the slavery reference,,is it coming? THAT comparison would definitely be off topic and the Mod would be appropriate to admonish it..
    Maybe they should admonish you since you are clearing baiting with comments like this

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