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    re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    No, I have no doubt that opponents of gay rights are sincere in their bigotry.
    Beyond the marriage situation what rights are we talking about?

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    re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Beyond the marriage situation what rights are we talking about?
    Adoption is a big one.

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    re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah, I think of the peoples rights when discussing government action. Something you clearly forgot about along the way.
    Obviously you understood my point so I'll address this to you. I've seen it said a number of times that people opposed to gay marriage should simply not participate in one (which, btw, I think is a fair statement). How is it justifiable to then support actually legally forcing someone who doesn't want to, to participate?

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    re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Adoption is a big one.
    They already have that protected, don't they?

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    re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    lol not weighted at all, they are actually REALITY based but i admit thats ONLY true because i have 3 options.

    If i would have left off the third then yes it would haave been weighted and YOUR title for option number too would be spot on in that case
    How did adding the third option change what you implied in the second?

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    re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    No, I have no doubt that opponents of gay rights are sincere in their bigotry.
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    re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    They already have that protected, don't they?
    Nope.

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    re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    1.)I'd be more confident this was the case if there weren't already recently decided cases saying that florists and cake shops cannot refuse to serve same sex weddings, even on religious beliefs.

    2.)Apparently their first amendment rights doen't really mean much.

    3.)What guarantee is there that the same line of reasoning will not be applied to churches?

    4.)Guess even just asking that makes me a conspiracy nut huh?
    1.) well first that has nothign to do with the first amendment and churches, 2nd the same thing has happened with many other forms of illegal discriminaiton. if gays did exist those people breaking the law and violating rights would still happen.

    2.) they mean plenty until you break the law or violate the rights of others just like ever other right

    3.) again the constitution make it so and again if gays never excists churches ALREADY discriminate and its legal to do as a church. They already turn away straight couples, interracial couples, minority couples and couples simply not religious enough now. They have that right and i support it.

    so if you have any fears about that, you should already have them NOW, because nothing would change. Church is not a public business.
    Religion only goes so far, its the same reason st lukes hospital cant deny me spouse rights or visitation if i was married under jewish religion or by a singing Elvis, their right to religion and discrimination only goes so far. In the public realm you have to play by public rules.

    4.) of course not, "asking" is fine lol
    and i dont really believe you think that a CHURCH will get sued and be forced to do a marriage.
    if you do i have to ask WHY? theres absolutely no logic behind it. Heck it was just this summer that church denied a black couple and that was they church they go to. Nothing happened but a news story because there is no legal ground to force a church to marry anybody.

    if but to answer your question if you honestly think its possible then yes on THIS issue i would have to label you that.

    also be clear, in not saying retards might not TRY lol but like the others they will fail.
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    re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Is there some other kind of person who opposes gay rights?

    That's a rhetorical question. The answer is no.
    well i think that needs better defined

    if you personally oppose them that doesnt make you a bigot

    if you are actively fighting to STOP them and you vote against them, then yes i call that a bigot.
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    re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It's out there. Look at Loving v. Virginia, for example.
    that was a case for equal treatment under the law and discrimination it wasn't to establish marriage as a right

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