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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Ok for some fantasy reason there's going to be a national vote on equal rights for gays.

    Save me all the failed arguments that its not equal rights or it should be left to the states or the government should be out of it all together blah blah blah nonsense, thats in other threads. This is simply about how YOU would vote if this happened.

    and yes for the conspiracy theorist out there we will waste time and double down on the first amendment and say of course churches cant be forced to do these legal marriages, even though it has nothing to do with them anyway and this already cant happen.

    so there it is, its voting time, what do you do.

    Yes - you think gays should have equal rights and the right to legal marriage
    No - you dont think they should have equal rights and you want them banned from getting legal marriage.
    No vote - you stay home and dont vote at all
    I vote they should have equal rights and the right to legal marriage.

    What I don't do is insist that churches perform the ceremonies.

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    I think most of us can figure out that if someone votes the second option it's because they're a homophobic douchebag.
    By the way it's worded I would agree that is the implication.

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    No vote
    The homosexuals are doing well, now, I think.
    The next step is to repair and upgrade man......
    Another hundred years for this undertaking....time heals all wounds.
    Now, next is to give the left-handed man a break.
    The people need to do this, NOT the government....I do not think this is a serious problem, but then, I am not a "lefty" .

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    I think most of us can figure out that if someone votes the second option it's because they're a homophobic douchebag.
    Do you not believe in freedom of religion? There are people who would vote the second option because of their faith. Hardly makes them homophobic douche bags. Lordy.

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    is there a right to get married? if so can you link to the law or statute saying so?

    New York Marriage Equality Act

    "2. Legislative Intent. Marriage is a fundamental human right."

    http://www.governor.ny.gov/assets/ma...ualitybill.pdf

    Passed by the New York General Assembly 6/15/2011 by a vote of 80:63
    Passed by the New York Senate 6/24/2011 by a vote of 33:29
    Signed by the New York Governor 6/24/2011.



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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Moderator's Warning:
    If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do [W:72,96,331Apparently the previous warning wasn't clear enough, so let me be clearer.

    The next person baiting in this thread by suggesting posters who disagree with them and who voted for options 2 are "douchebags" of any sort is getting 3 points.

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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    can you please give a link showing that a court or law has said marriage is a right ive looked and the cases ive read about marriage was about equal treatment under the law and anti discrimination
    Loving v. Virginia (Loving v. Virginia)
    These statutes also deprive the Lovings of liberty without due process of law in violation of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men.

    Zablocki v Wisconsin (Thomas E. ZABLOCKI, Milwaukee County Clerk, etc., Appellant, v. Roger C. REDHAIL, etc. | Supreme Court | LII / Legal Information Institute)
    Although Loving arose in the context of racial discrimination, prior and subsequent decisions of this Court confirm that the right to marry is of fundamental importance for all individuals.




    There you go.


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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I vote they should have equal rights and the right to legal marriage.

    What I don't do is insist that churches perform the ceremonies.
    thats good mags and dont worry theres about zero danger of that happening
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I would not vote, as that ballot initiative would be far to vague and open to far too much interpretation for me to vote for it with a clear mind. "Equal rights" without it spelling out what rights are being talked about and how is problematic as I've seen far too many times on all sides where people consider things "rights" that I in no way believe are.

    If it was just a vote on marriage, I'd vote in favor of it as I believe our current law is unconstitutional. My preference would be to remove it completely and simply have two people civil unions as part of the law; but in your hypothetical, I'd vote to make our laws constitutional in my mind.
    hmmmm thats interesting, i guess i could have added more but ive never heard anybody assume the worse about equal rights. I mean if it was MORE rights than you or I have than that wouldnt be equal right?

    I see what you are saying but im not sure how to get there with out being presumptuous and defeating the use of equal rights.

    I mean by default IMO it simply has to equate to the rights i have but thanks for that explanation.

    I guess what im saying is i think they should have every right and freedom i have in a basic sense and if that wasnt the cause it be something different than equal
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    Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72]

    Food for thought.

    Gay couple to sue Church over gay marriage opt-out | Trending Central

    Yes, I know, it's England and nothing that happens in England would ever occur in the US.

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