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Thread: Should the USA resume all normal activities with Cuba

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    Re: Should the USA resume all normal activities with Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    If we maintain diplomatic/trade relations with China, we should do the same with Cuba.
    This is not just about "how nasty their government is" - the extant Cuban regime is directly responsible for deaths of American citizens and illegal confiscation of American property.

    Having said that: While they are not a free country, we are supposed to be. As such, we should not impose restrictions on visits or trade between our private citizens and any foreign entity we are not officially at war with.

    No diplomatic relationships, though. Castro and Co. are thugs.

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    Re: Should the USA resume all normal activities with Cuba

    Absolutely. It makes little or no sense to keep it in place, its outdated, and didnt do what it was intended to do.


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    Re: Should the USA resume all normal activities with Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    This is not just about "how nasty their government is" - the extant Cuban regime is directly responsible for deaths of American citizens and illegal confiscation of American property.
    Given the extent of American involvement in global conflicts, I'd say there's at least two dozen such countries for which you could claim the same.

    Yet if I had the money I could get a direct flight to Moscow or Hanoi and point out the damn American embassy buildings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Having said that: While they are not a free country, we are supposed to be. As such, we should not impose restrictions on visits or trade between our private citizens and any foreign entity we are not officially at war with. No diplomatic relationships, though. Castro and Co. are thugs.
    I'm happy that we can agree that trade/travel restrictions are a terrible idea. Like stated elsewhere in this thread, I also believe that isolation does too much to foster anti-American and anti-Western values. Distrust and outright antipathy spreads far easier against a phantom, faceless enemy than it does against an engaged country actively demonstrating its principles. It's why our American values, culture and even our entertainment is seen as a threat by many repressive governments.

    Let's also not pretend that we only hold diplomatic relationships with non-thuggish governments.

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    Re: Should the USA resume all normal activities with Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Let's also not pretend that we only hold diplomatic relationships with non-thuggish governments.
    I know, the world is not all made of norways and new zealands. But if we do not hold diplomatic relationships with this particular bunch of thugs right now - let's keep it as it is. Let them file a discrimination suit. :-)

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    Re: Should the USA resume all normal activities with Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    If Cuba had the pocket books and manufacturing ability that China did we would be all for "trading" with them.
    As they do not, we should not. Until they change their own tune or we think we can undermine them through trade, we can keep up our pretenses about human rights abuses.
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    Re: Should the USA resume all normal activities with Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by []D e e v e s View Post
    given the USA deals with regimes like China and Pakistan etc. Shouldn't Cuba be considered for resumption of all diplomatic/trade/commerce and tourism?

    Yes or no?



    If the USA can do business with China I see no reason why it can't do business with Cuba.

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    Re: Should the USA resume all normal activities with Cuba

    Of course.
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    Re: Should the USA resume all normal activities with Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by []D e e v e s View Post
    given the USA deals with regimes like China and Pakistan etc. Shouldn't Cuba be considered for resumption of all diplomatic/trade/commerce and tourism?

    Yes or no?
    Probably. Maybe alone with some conditions. They need us more than we need them so if it were me calling the shots, just off the top I'd ask for:

    - Permission to put up legit radio and TV Marti (Voice of America's Cuban Service they've always jammed.)
    - Co-operation in keeping illegal drugs out of the US, which they already do inadvertently.
    - Pardoning political prisoners.
    - We agree to offer National Hurricane Center advisories for Cuba, which we already do.
    - Cooperation between universities.
    - Exchange embassies and consulates.
    - Agree to work together to fight terrorism and WMD proliferation.
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    Re: Should the USA resume all normal activities with Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    It hasn't stopped Obama's best buds, Jay Z and Beyonce from doing w/e they wanted in Cuba, why should normal, working people who want to go to cuba be denied or be in danger of being attacked, should they go to Cuba, by cuban people who hate the US because of the way the US treats Cuba.
    ANY American can travel to Cuba already provided it involves humanitarian work, faith related, educational, journalism, professional cionferences or cultural exchange, which was Jay-Z and Beyonce's reason. I have a friend who's been there three times with his church on missions trips.

    http://wikitravel.org/en/Americans_in_Cuba ...and you don't even need to be best bud's with President Obama.
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    Re: Should the USA resume all normal activities with Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    It hasn't stopped Obama's best buds, Jay Z and Beyonce from doing w/e they wanted in Cuba, why should normal, working people who want to go to cuba be denied or be in danger of being attacked, should they go to Cuba, by cuban people who hate the US because of the way the US treats Cuba.
    lol, it's like a funny, sarcastic meme ("Thanks Obama!"), but I find it even more hilarious that some people really do blame everything on the guy.
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