View Poll Results: What does disability mean and who should get it?

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  • It means unmanagable pain and those people should get it

    9 25.00%
  • It means one might get a chance to retire early and play

    2 5.56%
  • It is another way to fleece taxpayers and no one should get it

    2 5.56%
  • who cares, it is unmanagable

    0 0%
  • who cares, it is insignificant expenditure for the US

    1 2.78%
  • It should be completely overhauled, re-written, and inspected for cheaters

    26 72.22%
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Same person? I doubt it. And since you didn't see him park, you have no idea if there wasn't someone with him that was handicap that he left there to do shopping. Or maybe he has some disability that you don't know about, such as a clotting disorder. You are simply assuming that he is taking advantage because, from what I have seen of your posts, you are a negative, glass-is-always-half-empty sort of person. You just don't know.

    Oh, and you should know that the military hospitals, at least Tripler, gives out "stork" placards to mothers-to-be during their third trimester. The NEX/Commissaries on Oahu have signs that are just past the handicap parking for them. Temporary too, but still something that helps.

    Since I am for civil service of some sort, including military service, being required for certain "benefits"/"rights" of citizenship, sort of like Starship Troopers, then that would include finding a way for any person, handicapped or not, to serve in some capacity. Probably not onboard warships, but definitely doing something.
    Rougenuke, either your a wanabe barracks lawyer or your trolling.

    The ADA system is full of fraud just like the VA.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Rougenuke, either your a wanabe barracks lawyer or your trolling.

    The ADA system is full of fraud just like the VA.
    There is plenty of fraud in both, not denying that. I am denying that you saw actual fraud just because you saw a snapshot of somebody doing one activity. You assume this person is a fraud and cheating the ADA system simply because he doesn't match your ideal/image of what "disabled" is or what disabled people should or should not do.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    A person is disabled to a greater or lesser degree when physical or mental attributes outside of their control cause them to be less or uncompetitive in the job market.



    Also, sometimes the medications that they are on to control or treat the disability, makes it unsafe for them to hold a job...

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Not your call, you aren't the doctor, you don't know their disability. Not all disabilities are easy to spot, trust me, I've had to deal with hundreds of ADA and ADAAA accommodations over the years, it's not your call, not your business, don't be the snoopy neighbor that passes judgement without all the facts.
    in all fairness, if he is paying more in taxes, cost of service etc due to bogus disability claims, he has a right to comment



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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    I went to Spokane a while back to pick up a stove from a guy on Craigs List. He said he wouldn't be able to help me load it because he was disabled so I assumed he was in a wheel chair. When I got there he was walking around fine and when I was having a problem getting the stove in the back of my pickup he finally pitched in and helped. I sure could not see any disability.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    He did address the thread. He addressed what is at the very heart of this thread. You are not qualified to determine if anyone's claims of being disabled are legitimate unless 1- you are a medical profession 2- you have access to their records. So you can jump up and down about the cheaters all you want but your observations and judgments alone do not substantiate your claim.
    they have twice this year, as two people I called attention to lost their benefits, people like you look the other way when people cheat the taxpayers, I am not one of them

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Not your call, you aren't the doctor, you don't know their disability. Not all disabilities are easy to spot, trust me, I've had to deal with hundreds of ADA and ADAAA accommodations over the years, it's not your call, not your business, don't be the snoopy neighbor that passes judgement without all the facts.
    turned in 2, both lost their benefits, there will be more. The guy today won't be one of them because of his heart condition, yet he can mow grass and work in tobacco, lying sack of ****.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

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    I once asked a man in his 30’s why he was on disability. He had fallen attempting to ford a swift stream while fishing. He replied: “Well, the judge said I have a bad attitude, I don’t like people and I can’t hold a job.” Shocking as it sounds, it wasn’t very different from other reasons I’ve heard. “I don’t remember, my Dad put me on it.” “I have anxiety.” “I have back pain.” (In ER because he fell from his horse.)


    Physicians and social workers, who deal with more than theories and studies, more than ‘rights’ and ’social contracts,’ know the truth. The disability system in America is terribly broken. As the administration points its finger at physicians who commit Medicare fraud, it would be more enlightening to point fingers at the untold numbers of individuals with false, or at least spurious, disability claims.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I will say that case doesn't seem pass the sniff test.



    I will say you have to watch your judgment with the placards. I have been mouthed off at several times (plus countless awful looks). I will park in a handicapped spot, help my into the store with her oxygen and get her set up on a motorized scooter. I finish up my shopping so I can hurry back into the store and help my mom back to the car. That is when I get mouthed off at. One gal actually waited at my parking spot to make sure I came out with my aged mobility impaired supplemental oxygen using mother. At least she could apologize.



    I agree, but on some level we have to acknowledge that there are many more people on disability than need to be - gaming the system.

    But I do suppose the person in the OP could have been in the terminal stages of cancer doing his bucket list.
    you would be wrong, he does not have cancer. I have been eating with this guy for 2.5 to 3 years, just found out today that he was on disability, I assumed he worked a normal job but i was wrong

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Again, you likely do not know why that person qualified for SSDI and you are not in that position to make the determination. Just because they are disabled doesn't mean that they have to shut themselves in their homes and have someone care for them in every menial task.
    Who said that? trouble reading? perhaps you should file

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