View Poll Results: What does disability mean and who should get it?

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  • It means unmanagable pain and those people should get it

    9 25.00%
  • It means one might get a chance to retire early and play

    2 5.56%
  • It is another way to fleece taxpayers and no one should get it

    2 5.56%
  • who cares, it is unmanagable

    0 0%
  • who cares, it is insignificant expenditure for the US

    1 2.78%
  • It should be completely overhauled, re-written, and inspected for cheaters

    26 72.22%
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    Wouldn't you agree that there are many jobs out there that are less physically and mentally demanding than riding a horse?
    Greetings, JC!

    Horseback riding is fun! Not too many jobs offer that benefit!

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I agree, but on some level we have to acknowledge that there are many more people on disability than need to be - gaming the system.

    But I do suppose the person in the OP could have been in the terminal stages of cancer doing his bucket list.
    I already acknowledged that there is an issue (I won't agree with the quantification since apparently it may account for less than 1%), but I won't back down. Americans are under the presumption that disabled people ought to look, talk, act, and think a certain way, otherwise they are faking it. Worse yet, they may even acknowledge that their behavior is legitimate but somehow don't deserve anything that the law provides. The "milking the system" and "lazy" rhetoric has been part of this country's presumption about people with disabilities for well over a century and a half.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, JC!

    Horseback riding is fun! Not too many jobs offer that benefit!
    That's okay, apparently you can go on disability and ride to your hearts content

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    That's okay, apparently you can go on disability and ride to your hearts content

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    It was said of my maternal grandmother that if she ever sat down, she'd probably die from boredom. I was told by my family that I appeared to be a lot like her!

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    A person is disabled to a greater or lesser degree when physical or mental attributes outside of their control cause them to be less or uncompetitive in the job market.
    I like this definition but... I have a friend who met this requirement. His diagnosis: morbid obesity. He spent a good deal of time stuffing his face. You couldn't talk him into eating fresh fruit and raw vegetables. No, it had to be fried chicken, cheese burgers and his absolute favorite..pizza!

    He got up to 560lbs. Nobody would hire him for a job. A big reason was he was so fat he couldn't reach to clean himself properly. To people with sensitive noses, the odor was line nothing else. The best I can describe it; regular BO, dirty socks, dirty toilet and cologne mixed together. You could smell him coming down the hall and if he sat down, the odor lingered for a couple of hours after he left. Speaking of sitting down, it was common that chairs and sofas would eventually break anywhere he frequented often. Any employer would need to absorb to cost of replacing furniture several times a year.

    He eventually got bariacric surgery and dropped all but about 350lbs and coud work again.

    But what do with do its people who's disabilities are self-induced? Did my friend have a "disease?" What about alcoholism or drug addiction? Is it right to deprive their kids of food and shelter because their parents are experiencing failure? And if we don't "help" them are we creating a more expensive crime proble when they start shoplifting and engaging in other criminal enterprises to support themselves? Then their way more expensive incarceration becomes a taxpayer burden?
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I will say that case doesn't seem pass the sniff test.



    I will say you have to watch your judgment with the placards. I have been mouthed off at several times (plus countless awful looks). I will park in a handicapped spot, help my into the store with her oxygen and get her set up on a motorized scooter. I finish up my shopping so I can hurry back into the store and help my mom back to the car. That is when I get mouthed off at. One gal actually waited at my parking spot to make sure I came out with my aged mobility impaired supplemental oxygen using mother. At least she could apologize.



    I agree, but on some level we have to acknowledge that there are many more people on disability than need to be - gaming the system.

    But I do suppose the person in the OP could have been in the terminal stages of cancer doing his bucket list.
    Year2Late, you're a woman, were you into riding horses ?

    I can't see how anyone with a physical disability could go on a week long horseback ride let alone one hour.
    Riding a horse is exercise. My X had horses and when I was at the peak in my life of being in physical shape I discovered muscles I didn't know I had when I had to ride all over Palos Verdes.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Year2Late, you're a woman, were you into riding horses ?

    I can't see how anyone with a physical disability could go on a week long horseback ride let alone one hour.
    Riding a horse is exercise. My X had horses and when I was at the peak in my life of being in physical shape I discovered muscles I didn't know I had when I had to ride all over Palos Verdes.
    I have already said it doesn't seem to pass the sniff test.

    But if you want me to acknowledge there are things about the situation that I know that I really don't....I ain't gonna do it. Isn't "doesn't seem to pass the sniff test" enough?

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Look, if I had someone randomly come up to me and claim that I did not deserve the accommodations or benefits I receive under a completely different program or institution (as I never applied for this program, but have for others), because I did not "look" disabled to them, I would tell them to "get f*cked."
    Figure look on the bright side. If someone did that to me, they'd be eligible to "milk the system", too.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    How do you know "he was by himself"? Did you follow him everywhere? Did you see him park and see him leave?

    Then how do you know he doesn't have something that has nothing to do with his strength? Heck, it could easily be MS, which is actually something that has good days and bad days. Or it could be something like that golfer had, the one that couldn't walk far or he took a high chance of getting blood clots in his legs.

    I saw him get into his truck and drive off.

    This just isn't one incident, seen it dozens of times and so have tens of thousands of others. It goes on all over America. Why do you think people are pissed off ?

    What will piss you off, if you break your leg and have a cast on your leg you can't park in the handicap space. Since a broken leg is a temporary disability you can't get one of those blue ADA cards.

    What year is the Navy suppose to have those ADA aircraft parking spaces on carrier flight decks ? You think I'm BSing you, don't you ?

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It's like that guy I saw this morning at the Home Depot parked in the handicap zone with one of those blue ADA cards hanging from his rear view mirror who was loading 16, 100 pound bags of concrete into the back of his pick-up truck.


    Home Depot doesn't sell 100 pound bags of concrete. In fact, nobody does.

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