View Poll Results: What does disability mean and who should get it?

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  • It means unmanagable pain and those people should get it

    9 25.00%
  • It means one might get a chance to retire early and play

    2 5.56%
  • It is another way to fleece taxpayers and no one should get it

    2 5.56%
  • who cares, it is unmanagable

    0 0%
  • who cares, it is insignificant expenditure for the US

    1 2.78%
  • It should be completely overhauled, re-written, and inspected for cheaters

    26 72.22%
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Sorry about your loss. I have alot of respect for people like you that always see the rainbow or white lining.
    Just to be clear, I didn't actually lose the use of my legs, that was just a hypothetical.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Just to be clear, I didn't actually lose the use of my legs, that was just a hypothetical.
    oH, still there are many handicapped people that work today. We have several in my company. To see someone like this morning is disgusting.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    oH, still there are many handicapped people that work today. We have several in my company. To see someone like this morning is disgusting.
    I agree. I have zero respect for people who abuse the disability system.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    irrelevant, doctors like getting paid, now address the thread
    He did address the thread. He addressed what is at the very heart of this thread. You are not qualified to determine if anyone's claims of being disabled are legitimate unless 1- you are a medical profession 2- you have access to their records. So you can jump up and down about the cheaters all you want but your observations and judgments alone do not substantiate your claim.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I met another "disabled person" this morning that was loading up for a week trip to go horseback riding in Missouri. How disabled could that person really be, horses are alot of trouble and require high amounts of physical labor for care.

    It is becoming sickening seeing these types basically on early retirement while the rest of us work.
    Not your call, you aren't the doctor, you don't know their disability. Not all disabilities are easy to spot, trust me, I've had to deal with hundreds of ADA and ADAAA accommodations over the years, it's not your call, not your business, don't be the snoopy neighbor that passes judgement without all the facts.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Was he by himself or possibly have a disabled passenger. It doesn't have to be the driver that disabled.
    He was by himself and was the driver.

    I see this all of the time at Home Depot and building materials dealers.

    I see cars parked with disability plates or place cards where only those go to climb the sides of mountains.


    Here in California if you have a blue disability place card on your car your exempt from putting money in a parking meter. If your city bans overnight parking on the streets, you're exempt.

    The entire ADA needs to be rewritten. It's full of abuse and fraud.

    But can you name one liberal feel good law or entitlement that isn't full of abuse and fraud ?

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Look, if I had someone randomly come up to me and claim that I did not deserve the accommodations or benefits I receive under a completely different program or institution (as I never applied for this program, but have for others), because I did not "look" disabled to them, I would tell them to "get f*cked."
    Wouldn't you agree that there are many jobs out there that are less physically and mentally demanding than riding a horse?

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I met another "disabled person" this morning that was loading up for a week trip to go horseback riding in Missouri. How disabled could that person really be, horses are alot of trouble and require high amounts of physical labor for care.

    It is becoming sickening seeing these types basically on early retirement while the rest of us work.
    I will say that case doesn't seem pass the sniff test.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It's like that guy I saw this morning at the Home Depot parked in the handicap zone with one of those blue ADA cards hanging from his rear view mirror who was loading 16, 100 pound bags of concrete into the back of his pick-up truck.
    I will say you have to watch your judgment with the placards. I have been mouthed off at several times (plus countless awful looks). I will park in a handicapped spot, help my into the store with her oxygen and get her set up on a motorized scooter. I finish up my shopping so I can hurry back into the store and help my mom back to the car. That is when I get mouthed off at. One gal actually waited at my parking spot to make sure I came out with my aged mobility impaired supplemental oxygen using mother. At least she could apologize.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You also don't have their medical records.
    I agree, but on some level we have to acknowledge that there are many more people on disability than need to be - gaming the system.

    But I do suppose the person in the OP could have been in the terminal stages of cancer doing his bucket list.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Why can't they maintain a job? mowing climbing on the house, changing the oil is all intensive labor, can't work?
    Again, you likely do not know why that person qualified for SSDI and you are not in that position to make the determination. Just because they are disabled doesn't mean that they have to shut themselves in their homes and have someone care for them in every menial task.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    He was by himself and was the driver.

    I see this all of the time at Home Depot and building materials dealers.

    I see cars parked with disability plates or place cards where only those go to climb the sides of mountains.


    Here in California if you have a blue disability place card on your car your exempt from putting money in a parking meter. If your city bans overnight parking on the streets, you're exempt.

    The entire ADA needs to be rewritten. It's full of abuse and fraud.

    But can you name one liberal feel good law or entitlement that isn't full of abuse and fraud ?
    How do you know "he was by himself"? Did you follow him everywhere? Did you see him park and see him leave?

    Then how do you know he doesn't have something that has nothing to do with his strength? Heck, it could easily be MS, which is actually something that has good days and bad days. Or it could be something like that golfer had, the one that couldn't walk far or he took a high chance of getting blood clots in his legs.
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