View Poll Results: What does disability mean and who should get it?

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  • It means unmanagable pain and those people should get it

    9 25.00%
  • It means one might get a chance to retire early and play

    2 5.56%
  • It is another way to fleece taxpayers and no one should get it

    2 5.56%
  • who cares, it is unmanagable

    0 0%
  • who cares, it is insignificant expenditure for the US

    1 2.78%
  • It should be completely overhauled, re-written, and inspected for cheaters

    26 72.22%
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Even modestly? Are we arguing over net benefits to a population or are we arguing political philosophy?
    Even net benefits is subjective.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Considering it exists that is pretty weird thing to say.
    In moderated amounts, perhaps. Even then, your moderated ideas needed significant alterations.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    In moderated amounts, perhaps. Even then, your moderated ideas needed significant alterations.
    And why is that?

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I'm suggesting that your own feelings toward what you are doing is a lesser concern than the overall impact on a population.
    Okay, well make a point then. Just telling me what "scholars" say doesn't prove anything. Make a point, tell me who made the US such an awesome country before entitlements if it wasn't the government, and why could't they have done the same or better than the government since the inception of entitlements?

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    Okay, well make a point then. Just telling me what "scholars" say doesn't prove anything. Make a point, tell me who made the US such an awesome country before entitlements if it wasn't the government, and why could't they have done the same or better than the government since the inception of entitlements?
    They really couldn't have done more in the same time period since the government has access to more resources and more power over the economy, but they could have pushed towards the same ends just fine.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Even modestly? Are we arguing over net benefits to a population or are we arguing political philosophy?
    I think their tied in together.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It may not be the greatest in history (that's a matter of debate, as you could swing to Rome), but it should be near the top at the very least.
    I wouldn't argue that. But I don't see us as the greatest country in history and I don't see us as the greatest country today. Top 10, no argument.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    Okay, well make a point then. Just telling me what "scholars" say doesn't prove anything. Make a point, tell me who made the US such an awesome country before entitlements if it wasn't the government, and why could't they have done the same or better than the government since the inception of entitlements?
    So what would prove anything? Would a group consensus of the disabled work? Because if that would be the case, I would say the evidence would be damning. If scholars don't work, if statistical data does not work, but apparently mindless yammering does, then I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to convince.

    If you cannot handle the fact that private initiatives had neither the resources nor infrastructural reach to grab anywhere near the same population as the government does today, then what more can I really do?
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    I'm not against the government setting certain rules, I don't like the massive payments through transfer of wealth.
    Don't you see "transfer of wealth" as one of the scary Conservative labels? What does it really mean?
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    They really couldn't have done more in the same time period since the government has access to more resources and more power over the economy, but they could have pushed towards the same ends just fine.
    I think it would be interesting to see how things would've turned out.

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