View Poll Results: What does disability mean and who should get it?

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  • It means unmanagable pain and those people should get it

    9 25.00%
  • It means one might get a chance to retire early and play

    2 5.56%
  • It is another way to fleece taxpayers and no one should get it

    2 5.56%
  • who cares, it is unmanagable

    0 0%
  • who cares, it is insignificant expenditure for the US

    1 2.78%
  • It should be completely overhauled, re-written, and inspected for cheaters

    26 72.22%
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    it has everything to do with keeping the obama\demonrat slush funds well stocked?
    This thread isn't about Obama and it isn't in the partisan bull**** subforum. Do you have anything useful to say, or do you intend to keep wasting all of our time with stupid, simple-minded political slogans that aren't even relevant to what we're trying to discuss?

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It hasn't gone to trial. I can't believe some of you people are so gullible enough to believe your own words. Ridiculous. Plenty of people are playing the system.
    I seem to recall your words being that the SSA even agrees. They don't. Coburn's accusations are likewise widely criticized for somehow arguing that the demographic change was unaccounted for by previous assessments.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Are you seriously suggesting that from March 2012 to October 2013 we have information about the same time frame which skyrocketed from 1% to 20%, without internal changes to the infamously strict criteria of SSA.
    I really think doin' a brisk business committing fraud in these programs will be the only growth industry in the obamanation economy

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    This thread isn't about Obama and it isn't in the partisan bull**** subforum. Do you have anything useful to say, or do you intend to keep wasting all of our time with stupid, simple-minded political slogans that aren't even relevant to what we're trying to discuss?
    is your infraction button broken ?

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I seem to recall your words being that the SSA even agrees. They don't. Coburn's accusations are likewise widely criticized for somehow arguing that the demographic change was unaccounted for by previous assessments.
    I think that anyone who actually believes that the SS fraud is 1% or below is quite naive to say the least. Your Social Security Disability is running out of money.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think that anyone who actually believes that the SS fraud is 1% or below is quite naive to say the least. Your Social Security Disability is running out of money.
    Let's flip this shall we? If the general public hears about waste, fraud, and abuse constantly, but rarely investigates the claims and just takes it for granted, they are much more willing to accept that belief. I nearly always err on the side of skepticism anytime the general public comes up with a platitude. It has rarely held me back in getting to the truth. In this case it is waste, fraud, and abuse of the SSDI program.

    Low and behold Coburn's report. It throws up all of the goodies that folks generally too ignorant to bother themselves with fact checking want. Nevermind the fact that most institutionalized knowledge points in the other direction. No, no, we are the ones who are naive...not the ones who don't know any better.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Let's flip this shall we? If the general public hears about waste, fraud, and abuse constantly, but rarely investigates the claims and just takes it for granted, they are much more willing to accept that belief. I nearly always err on the side of skepticism anytime the general public comes up with a platitude. It has rarely held me back in getting to the truth. In this case it is waste, fraud, and abuse of the SSDI program.

    Low and behold Coburn's report. It throws up all of the goodies that folks generally too ignorant to bother themselves with fact checking want. Nevermind the fact that most institutionalized knowledge points in the other direction. No, no, we are the ones who are naive...not the ones who don't know any better.
    I've seen it myself on more than one occasion. I was an acquaintance of a woman who was actually arrested for. The police came to her home while her and her young daughter were there and arrested her. I had to baby sit her daughter. She was collecting disability and working under the table too. At the time, I didn't know it, but apparently someone turned her in.

    If I've seen it that many times, and we hear about it on the news and from others, then it is obviously a problem. Also, it's not just individuals involved. There are lawyers and doctors involved as well, as demonstrated by my link. You can deny it all day long, but it's quite obviously happening and much more than you would think.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    I think the biggest problem is it's so hard to catch someone. That's why they have those hot line numbers set up for people to call and report.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    if someone is dizzy why is it my problem?
    No one said it was. Is it your problem when someone breaks their back, or loses their limbs, or goes blind, etc. It's society's problem, we look after our own.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Doesnt really bother me either way to be honest, I obviously would hope my government caught those ripping off the system but I dont waste my time worrying about it. If someone wants to spend their short stay on this planet by being lazy and collecting checks then thats their waste.
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