View Poll Results: What does disability mean and who should get it?

Voters
36. You may not vote on this poll
  • It means unmanagable pain and those people should get it

    9 25.00%
  • It means one might get a chance to retire early and play

    2 5.56%
  • It is another way to fleece taxpayers and no one should get it

    2 5.56%
  • who cares, it is unmanagable

    0 0%
  • who cares, it is insignificant expenditure for the US

    1 2.78%
  • It should be completely overhauled, re-written, and inspected for cheaters

    26 72.22%
Multiple Choice Poll.
Page 36 of 58 FirstFirst ... 26343536373846 ... LastLast
Results 351 to 360 of 580

Thread: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

  1. #351
    double secret probation AngryOldGuy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Phx,Az
    Last Seen
    03-31-14 @ 10:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    2,917

    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    big sudden turns that will flip it over
    that will be the result of going past 21 trillion in debt by the time the socialist in chief leaves office? So tell me, at what point will enough be too much 21 trillion 41 a hundred and one? Can the debt just continue to grow forever?

    Unless you STOP entitlements dead in their tracks there's no stopping this boat from capsizing we on the right firmly believe that bankrupting the country is the goal of you commies, go on tell me I'm wrong
    New Hope for the Wretched era

  2. #352
    Light△Bender

    grip's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    ☚ ☛
    Last Seen
    12-13-17 @ 02:42 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,224
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    that will be the result of going past 21 trillion in debt by the time the socialist in chief leaves office? So tell me, at what point will enough be too much 21 trillion 41 a hundred and one? Can the debt just continue to grow forever?

    Unless you STOP entitlements dead in their tracks there's no stopping this boat from capsizing we on the right firmly believe that bankrupting the country is the goal of you commies, go on tell me I'm wrong
    Why would any side want us to fail? Both parties want success they merely have differing opinions on how to achieve the same goal. One is a little more people centric, while the other is a little more business based but both are not as different as they attempt to project. The single worse detractor of the whole system of political debate are self aggrandizing and delusional ego's.

    I'm not a commie but I also don't believe in a plutocracy.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

  3. #353
    double secret probation AngryOldGuy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Phx,Az
    Last Seen
    03-31-14 @ 10:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    2,917

    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Both parties want success
    at the expense of the American taxpayer? No welfare and socialism is not 'caring about the people'. In this case failure is an option. There has been a trend in one direction for over 50 years, more and more government interference in every facet of your daily life (now they will have your e-mails and your medical records?) you will serve the state well in your golden years or will you be seen as a non-productive member of society when you come before the death panel? semi-retired is that obamanation code for unemployed? I still have yet to see all the folks that have signed up at the state exchanges and love it, time will tell?

  4. #354
    Light△Bender

    grip's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    ☚ ☛
    Last Seen
    12-13-17 @ 02:42 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,224
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    at the expense of the American taxpayer? No welfare and socialism is not 'caring about the people'. In this case failure is an option. There has been a trend in one direction for over 50 years, more and more government interference in every facet of your daily life (now they will have your e-mails and your medical records?) you will serve the state well in your golden years or will you be seen as a non-productive member of society when you come before the death panel? semi-retired is that obamanation code for unemployed? I still have yet to see all the folks that have signed up at the state exchanges and love it, time will tell?
    There's only one problem with your theory the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer under the current trend of unbridled capitalism. People can't work if there's no jobs, so how are they supposed to live without income? And if there's so much socialism why did the gov bail out corporations and banks during the financial collapse of 2008 instead of the average citizen? That was $4 trillion right there in one shot added to the deficit and why is the FED buying up $85 billion of bad bank loans every month for years on end if it's all going to the poor? And eventually even the wealthy will suffer if people can't make enough money to stimulate the economy thru spending.

    See the real problem is that average people aren't getting enough of the pie and that's what's causing the lack of growth, not gov spending which is literally just a bunch of numbers on some books. But if they keep buying up bad debt from greedy banks and their investors they are going to devalue the dollar and capital investments in the US, so bad that interest rates and inflation eventually shoot thru the roof.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

  5. #355
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Seen
    07-19-17 @ 03:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    60,458

    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    I figured you don't care for others and you've confirmed that.
    Actually, all he confirmed is that he is against government imposed charity.

    The nation is made better by caring for all its citizens. There is abuse in the system, but as it has been stated in this thread, it's about 1% (if I'm not mistaken). We don't have great numbers of people unable to earn a living, languishing in the streets. That is the trait of a 3rd world banana republic, not the beacon of freedom Americans like to claim the U.S. is.
    "Try to imagine a regulation of labor imposed by force that is not a violation of liberty; a transfer of wealth imposed by force that is not a violation of property. If you cannot reconcile these contradictions, then you must conclude that the law cannot organize labor and industry without organizing injustice." - Frédéric Bastiat

    I have quoted that at least twice now and yet no one wants to challenge the idea that when the government imposes a transfer of wealth by force that it's a violation of property. Perhaps because they know it is and they can't actually reconcile how they can claim they care for people when they support violating their rights.

    This line of yours "The nation is made better by caring for all its citizens" is basically talking about a unity and a fraternity that you desire to be there, but no matter what you do it will forever be artificial and imposed on the people. No one has organized on their own free will, no one is associating with others because they desire to do so, no one is helping anyone or doing anything they desire to do. It's all just forced upon them by the government for whatever agendas they desire to impose on the people. There is really no justice, no empathy, no ability to even consider people here at all.

  6. #356
    double secret probation AngryOldGuy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Phx,Az
    Last Seen
    03-31-14 @ 10:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    2,917

    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    government imposed charity
    wow that is mind boggling to me.
    On my planet charity imposed at the point of a gun goes by a different name.
    The real issue is that the run of the mill wage slave hasn't a clue.

  7. #357
    double secret probation AngryOldGuy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Phx,Az
    Last Seen
    03-31-14 @ 10:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    2,917

    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    the current trend of unbridled capitalism
    could you point me to where that is happening (in this country)?
    its ok, you folks seem to be all for our mixed economy to become pure, I can see that while you are getting your wish I fear you have no idea what the result will be, folks that lived under communism and fled here can tell ya it ain't all its cracked up to be

  8. #358
    double secret probation AngryOldGuy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Phx,Az
    Last Seen
    03-31-14 @ 10:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    2,917

    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    There's only one problem with your theory the rich are getting richer.
    and somehow you've been lead to believe that isn't a good thing?


  9. #359
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Seen
    07-19-17 @ 03:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    60,458

    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    wow that is mind boggling to me.
    On my planet charity imposed at the point of a gun goes by a different name.
    The real issue is that the run of the mill wage slave hasn't a clue.
    I have found that calling it charity makes them feel better. If I call it by it's proper name they bitch and moan like children screaming It's not true. It's not true! It's not true! WAAAH!

  10. #360
    Sage
    JC Callender's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Metro Detroit
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 05:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    5,632

    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    We used to have sanitariums and state mental hospitals filled with people. Those "resources" no longer exist.

    You think churches, friends and family have resources that last a life time of a person with disabilities? That's the thing about charity and a family's ability to earn enough to provide the necessities, it's not always there and it ebbs and flows with the economy.
    Yes, we did it before welfare. Annie Sullivan grew up in an alms house which certainly wasn't ideal, but grew up to teach Helen Keller how to communicate. Before that, people like Keller were viewed by some as borderline animals with no hope of ever communicating. Imo, Sullivan gained a great deal of insight and empathy from her rough childhood that assisted her in helping Keller.

Page 36 of 58 FirstFirst ... 26343536373846 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •