View Poll Results: What does disability mean and who should get it?

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  • It means unmanagable pain and those people should get it

    9 25.00%
  • It means one might get a chance to retire early and play

    2 5.56%
  • It is another way to fleece taxpayers and no one should get it

    2 5.56%
  • who cares, it is unmanagable

    0 0%
  • who cares, it is insignificant expenditure for the US

    1 2.78%
  • It should be completely overhauled, re-written, and inspected for cheaters

    26 72.22%
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    You must break away from your computer screen and look around a little more. There are plenty of sit down jobs for poor. Receptionist comes to mind. I used to work at a plant many years ago that made rubber car and appliance parts. The entire inspection department sat to work. Low skill, low physical requirement job.
    Receptionist is largely a middle-class job. According to ustr.gov, the US economy is 68% service. Factory jobs are not part of the service economy, and according to that statistic, are rare. Even within the 30% non-service, a lot of jobs require standing up, such as working on a farm. Plants are closing across the country because of lower-regulation and cheaper-labor countries. Furthermore, factories are moving towards higher education jobs as technology increases. Unless you live near one of these factories, you're working at Walmart if you don't have a college degree. This American Life interviewed people who couldn't even think of jobs which didn't require standing up, because they were in the "working" class and had very little education.


    Citation: Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

    Compare this with retail:



    Note that the population is rising by about 25 million for the period in these graphs, making the drop even more powerful.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt E View Post
    you're working at Walmart
    Matty "Software Developer"is a position that requires a degree and is a 'sit down job' right ?
    Should you be taxed into mediocrity for the failings of others?
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    What do you suppose would happen to them?
    Probably the same thing that happened before we had welfare. People would be forced to look out for themselves and for one another. Families and friends would rely more heavily on one another and churches and charities would help pick up the slack.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    What do you suppose would happen to them?
    You assume that I or anyone else should care?
    See that's the beauty of not having been brainwashed into an altruistic mindset, I needn't be affected by the nuttiness of the left. (Unless you factor in the jackbooted thugs of the IRS?)

    Go on you lefties, gnash your teeth and wail at the supposed inequities of the Universe.
    For all the good it will do.

    My response Gina is: how will forcibly taking from one citizen that which he or she has honestly earned under the guise of caring for (insert and endless series of imagined disadvantaged classes of people)
    make this a better nation or serve the cause of freedom?

    wage slaves may still have a lot of blood yet to be squeezed from them, is there a limit?

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    Matty "Software Developer"is a position that requires a degree and is a 'sit down job' right ?
    Should you be taxed into mediocrity for the failings of others?
    I know someone who knows someone who has maybe 20 years of real-world software development experience, but has to get a degree because no one will give him a job (he had never gotten a computer science degree to begin with). Most white collar jobs are like this. The problem is that there are so many people coming out of college, and they get automatic preference. Everyone else, who may have more real world experience, is given lower priority.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    All aboard, another extremist, hell no he does not have cancer, he has more hair than the duck dynasty cast combined, jesus ****ing christ
    Extremist? Are you saying that I am a extremist just because I gave you some useful information that you probably just ignored anyways?

    So people with lots of hair are the only ones without cancer? I had thyroid cancer didnt loose any hair, well it did thin a little but you wouldnt know the difference passing by me on the street.


    You really are not making a good case at all. All that you have done is showed your own ignorance of the facts. But I knew that as soon as I read your silly biased poll.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    Probably the same thing that happened before we had welfare. People would be forced to look out for themselves and for one another. Families and friends would rely more heavily on one another and churches and charities would help pick up the slack.
    We used to have sanitariums and state mental hospitals filled with people. Those "resources" no longer exist.

    You think churches, friends and family have resources that last a life time of a person with disabilities? That's the thing about charity and a family's ability to earn enough to provide the necessities, it's not always there and it ebbs and flows with the economy.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt E View Post
    who may have more real world experience,
    yeah my kid who graduates lawl school next May
    has already turned his nose up at a hundred grand a year offer. Guess taxing him confiscatory rates ostensibly to provide for the defective and 'disabled' is something he and those like him will not mind in the least? Bill Gates Micheal Dell and that other guy that died recently didn't have degrees either eh?

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt E View Post
    I know someone who knows someone who has maybe 20 years of real-world software development experience, but has to get a degree because no one will give him a job (he had never gotten a computer science degree to begin with). Most white collar jobs are like this. The problem is that there are so many people coming out of college, and they get automatic preference. Everyone else, who may have more real world experience, is given lower priority.
    My granddaughter, who graduated earlier this year, has two degrees, both in the health field, one in administration, and the other in biochemistry. She has had to settle for an entry level job in Emergency Admitting, since the hospitals want two to three year's experience! She is being fast-tracked, which is good, but she is getting discouraged since she spent five years getting those degrees! She is wondering whether to go on for her Masters at this point. On the other hand, hospitals in this area are merging, which is eliminating jobs, so she feels fortunate just to have a job.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    My granddaughter, who graduated earlier this year, has two degrees, both in the health field, one in administration, and the other in biochemistry. She has had to settle for an entry level job in Emergency Admitting, since the hospitals want two to three year's experience! She is being fast-tracked, which is good, but she is getting discouraged since she spent five years getting those degrees! She is wondering whether to go on for her Masters at this point. On the other hand, hospitals in this area are merging, which is eliminating jobs, so she feels fortunate just to have a job.
    HAR wait it til Oh-Bammer care kicks in and she's relegated to bedpan doodie for life? We are all going to suffer in this trainwreck but those in the medical industry will have their lives destroyed.

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