View Poll Results: What does disability mean and who should get it?

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  • It means unmanagable pain and those people should get it

    9 25.00%
  • It means one might get a chance to retire early and play

    2 5.56%
  • It is another way to fleece taxpayers and no one should get it

    2 5.56%
  • who cares, it is unmanagable

    0 0%
  • who cares, it is insignificant expenditure for the US

    1 2.78%
  • It should be completely overhauled, re-written, and inspected for cheaters

    26 72.22%
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    as long as that senator is a republican you mean?
    As long as it is any senator that has actually researched something unlike this one:


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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Not at all. But I don't make claims of what a Statute is or says if I don't actually know the statute myself or can provide it if requested.
    Unfortunately I have a life which involves work, family time and hobbies, I don't live in cubicle reading statutes all day. I will watch your posts in the future to see if you can provide something written for anything you post.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    As long as it is any senator that has actually researched something unlike this one:

    and pelosi is a member of the house of Representatives, not a senator.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    A thread on combat PTSD would be a good thread considering how many vets there are on the PD from the Vietnam War to Afghanistan. I have my own theories that many who been there and done that and who are in the military or VA medical fields concur with.

    Look at the Marines, sailors and soldiers who fought in the Pacific theater during WW ll, nothing comparable to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan and why so little combat PTSD ? Or why Marines who served in Vietnam have less PTSD claims than soldiers. And what's with POG's who served in Iraq or Afghanistan filing combat PTSD claims ?

    I came across an article recently from an interview of the Army's Chief of Staff and the Commandant of the Marine Corps during the early 70's. It was about the first social engineering/dumbing down of Army basic training. Eliminating a few things like midnight inspections and a couple of more. Then they turned to the Commandant and asked if the Marine Corps going to follow suit and dumb down Marine Corps recruit training and he said no. Then he went in to why. Pretty interesting, I need to dig it up and start a new thread.
    There are so many individuals that came home from WWII and displayed PTSD symptoms. One of the most heartbreaking books I've ever read (Betton Boys) was a unit from Betton Virginia that landed in Normandy and was ripped to pieces. The one's that survived fell into alcoholism and committed suicide. PTSD existed in WWII...it just wasn't diagnosed. The most decorated enlisted soldier in US history suffered from PTSD and became an advocate for better treatment of vets with PTSD.

    There is no "dumbing down" of US Army basic training. I'm sorry but the US army is better than it's ever been. It's a professional army with higher level of IQ and other measurements than it's ever had in it's history. There's no doubt Vietnam Era basic was harder but a lot Vietnam vets went from civilian to war.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    and pelosi is a member of the house of Representatives, not a senator.
    so that exuses her actions?

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Tom Coburn: Go read the statute. If there's any job in the economy you can perform, you are not eligible for disability. That's pretty clear. So, where'd all those disabled people come from?

    Disability, USA - CBS News
    Demographics Explain Nearly All Growth in Social Security Disability Insurance

    * The Social Security disability programs have grown significantly since they were signed into law, as well as in recent years. The growth was expected and projected as far back as 1994.

    * According to Social Security's Chief Actuary, the growth of SSDI (from 1980 to 2010) is mostly the result of several factors: substantial growth in the U.S. population; the baby boomers aging into their high-disability years; women entering the workforce in large numbers in the 1970s and 1980s so that more are now "insured" for SSDI based on their own prior contributions; and the increase int he Social Security retirement age so that disabled workers continue to receive SSDI benefits for longer before converting to retirement benefits. (Footnote: Testimony of Stephen Goss, Chief Actuary, Social Security Administration, before the House Ways and Means Committee (March 2013), http://waysandmeans.house.gov/upload..._testimony.pdf)

    * Many experts including Social Securty's Chief Actuary caution against overstating the role that the recent economic downturn has played in contributing to the growth in SSDI. The Chief Actuary estimates that the recession accounts for just five percent of the program's growth. (Footnote: See id; see also Ruffing, supra note 5; see also Kathy Ruffing, Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, Disability Benefits are Hard to Get-Even in Recessions, Sept. 3, 2013, Off the Charts Blog | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities | Disability Benefits Are Hard to Get

    *Demographic factors-such as disproportionately older population-also explain geographic variation in rates of receipt of Social Security disability benefits. (Footnote: See, e.g. Kathy Ruffing, Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, The State of Disability, March 26, 2013, Off the Charts Blog | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities | The State of Disability, see also Kathy Ruffing, Not So Hale and Hearty: Explaining Disability Rates in One Alabama County, April 15, 2013, Off the Charts Blog | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities | Not So Hale and Hearty: Explaining Disability Rates in One Alabama County.
    Consortium for Citizens with Disabilities, "Just the Facts of Social Security's Disability Programs", http://www.c-c-d.org/fichiers/CCD-Ju...0-2-13-(2).pdf
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    so that exuses her actions?
    no but it does make me wonder why you thought pelosi was a senator

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Consortium for Citizens with Disabilities, "Just the Facts of Social Security's Disability Programs", http://www.c-c-d.org/fichiers/CCD-Ju...0-2-13-(2).pdf
    wow, biased info from a biased source, who would have figured that?

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    no but it does make me wonder why you thought pelosi was a senator
    I didn't, show me where that claim was made, liar.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    According to you? I will take a senator's word before an average political board poster's.
    And I trust Disability Rights organizations and the Social Security Administration over Coburn.
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