View Poll Results: What does disability mean and who should get it?

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  • It means unmanagable pain and those people should get it

    9 25.00%
  • It means one might get a chance to retire early and play

    2 5.56%
  • It is another way to fleece taxpayers and no one should get it

    2 5.56%
  • who cares, it is unmanagable

    0 0%
  • who cares, it is insignificant expenditure for the US

    1 2.78%
  • It should be completely overhauled, re-written, and inspected for cheaters

    26 72.22%
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    If I were king, I would eliminate disability. In its place, I would give similar benefits to anyone who wanted them. No disability required. Disability lawyers out of business overnight. No more stories of legitimate disabled people being denied for years. No fraud, because fraud isn't possible when there's no requirements to be met. Anyone who wanted to live on more than the low level of subsistence we provide the disabled would still have reason to acquire a job.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    There are plenty of jobs that people can get sitting down. Factory workers for one.
    There aren't all that many factories in the US. We are a 70% service economy.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Please show me where I said everyone on disability is a fraud. I cited one case and you have thrown everyone under the the same scope which is dishonest.
    I haven't been so sure you didn't think that. Now you have cleared it up. No dishonesty was intended.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think the examples given are just that, examples. There IS fraud in the system, and it's quite common.
    No, it's not just examples. It's meant to make a point. Here's what happens. By all accounts we have maybe, what, knowledge of 1% that are taking advantage of the system unfairly. Now, burrowed underneath is centuries of resentment and disgust of the disabled burrowing up, and we get neighbors or random people calling up to say so and so is a fraud. Then on the systematic level, based off of little else than speculation, we blow up the concern by stating that even though we do not have evidence that it is a massive (enough to cause regular beneficiaries to worry about their damn neighbors looking at them funny) problem, that doesn't mean there isn't a massive problem down deep. I'm sorry, but it's just another connected issue that many of us have dealt with for years. Uneducated, unqualified yahoos thinking they know what we get and what we ought to get, even though there is no way on God's green earth they would for a second tolerate the same kind of rude behavior or audaciousness. There's many of us who have been approached, out of nowhere, by someone, anyone, that we are frauds or somehow we are being unfair to you folks. It's ridiculous behavior.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    I've seen someone get put on his ass for accusing someone of parking in a disabled zone when they felt he wasn't eligible. The guy doing the accusing was an idiot, carrying on like a maniac and he picked the wrong person. I bet he finds a new "hobby" now.

    (This happened outside of the hospital not far from where ambulances sometimes have to queue for patient transfers. - The guy parked in the disabled zone was waiting for his wife who was wheelchair bound and in having her chemo session which he told me usually lasted for 2 hours. He'd just got back to pick her up and he had every right to be there.)

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    People have been picking on YOU personally? Because I was under the impression that the thread was about fraudsters. The point is, we cannot afford to give disability to people for every ailment they might suffer. If they CAN work, even part-time, then they should not be collecting disability payments. There are sit-down jobs, standing jobs, jobs with a combination of the two.
    No thank you.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    If I were king, I would eliminate disability. In its place, I would give similar benefits to anyone who wanted them. No disability required. Disability lawyers out of business overnight. No more stories of legitimate disabled people being denied for years. No fraud, because fraud isn't possible when there's no requirements to be met. Anyone who wanted to live on more than the low level of subsistence we provide the disabled would still have reason to acquire a job.
    The Swiss are going to be voting on a program like that. A $2750/month guaranteed income for everyone.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    The Swiss are going to be voting on a program like that. A $2750/month guaranteed income for everyone.
    I don't think it's a bad idea at all, at least if we can afford it. As a country, we have a lot of resources, such as oil, which are drilled up or mined. This is taxed, as the land is owned by the country, as well as the oil company. A lot of that theoretically goes to schools, and such, but there's a trillion-dollar middleman that sucks most of that up. Why note just cut everybody a check? I like it.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I had a 10% ejection fraction when I got it. I never wanted to stop though, working towards my goals.
    It is rough stopping work when you desperately want to continue. That is how it is for many Americans.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    I've seen someone get put on his ass for accusing someone of parking in a disabled zone when they felt he wasn't eligible. The guy doing the accusing was an idiot, carrying on like a maniac and he picked the wrong person. I bet he finds a new "hobby" now.

    (This happened outside of the hospital not far from where ambulances sometimes have to queue for patient transfers. - The guy parked in the disabled zone was waiting for his wife who was wheelchair bound and in having her chemo session which he told me usually lasted for 2 hours. He'd just got back to pick her up and he had every right to be there.)
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