View Poll Results: What does disability mean and who should get it?

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  • It means unmanagable pain and those people should get it

    9 25.00%
  • It means one might get a chance to retire early and play

    2 5.56%
  • It is another way to fleece taxpayers and no one should get it

    2 5.56%
  • who cares, it is unmanagable

    0 0%
  • who cares, it is insignificant expenditure for the US

    1 2.78%
  • It should be completely overhauled, re-written, and inspected for cheaters

    26 72.22%
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    irrelevant, doctors like getting paid, now address the thread
    Rocketman, if you are going to presume people are frauds, and some undoubtedly are, you can't really do it off the basis that you saw some guy and he didn't "look" disabled. It doesn't (nor should it) work that way.

    I would address your thread, but you have no options that are worth a dang.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Yes, there is a lot of fraud in disability.

    However, there is a screening process and it isn't easy... in fact people that NEED to be on Disability often find it hard to get it, and spend months or years before they get anything.


    Also, people can have serious health issues that will keep them from holding down most jobs... where you have to come in every day without fail and do full workload... but they can still have "good days and bad days" where sometimes they can do things you might expect of a healthy person, and sometimes they can't. Most employers won't accept an employee who is going to be randomly absent from work 10 to 20 days a month due to health issues.


    Just sayin'... it can be more complex than readily meets the eye sometimes.

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I met another "disabled person" this morning that was loading up for a week trip to go horseback riding in Missouri. How disabled could that person really be, horses are alot of trouble and require high amounts of physical labor for care.

    It is becoming sickening seeing these types basically on early retirement while the rest of us work.
    About 2/3 of the time if you saw my mom you would never know she is disabled. The rest of the time as she cannot even stand up straight it is not so hard to tell. Unless you are a doctor who has examined a person, no one cares whether you think they are disabled.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    A person is disabled to a greater or lesser degree when physical or mental attributes outside of their control cause them to be less or uncompetitive in the job market.
    This ^^^.

    Which is not an option in your poll.

    I don't know why you settled on pain being the only factor. Impaired physical and/or mental function are also determinants. All are not always visible to the casual observer.

    There is always fraud, but all those designated with disabilities are not frauds.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    About 2/3 of the time if you saw my mom you would never know she is disabled. The rest of the time as she cannot even stand up straight it is not so hard to tell. Unless you are a doctor who has examined a person, no one cares whether you think they are disabled.
    Working people that see these people taking advantage of the system care. The statute reads and I quote "IF you are physically able to perform ANY job you aren't qualified for disability"

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    This ^^^.

    Which is not an option in your poll.

    I don't know why you settled on pain being the only factor. Impaired physical and/or mental function are also determinants. All are not always visible to the casual observer.

    There is always fraud, but all those designated with disabilities are not frauds.
    Uncompetitive does not make you disabled, jesus christ!

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Uncompetitive does not make you disabled, jesus christ!
    To qualify for Disability, the definition is strict, and defined under able-employment. As a diagnostic category, however, disability is a great deal more broad.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Working people that see these people taking advantage of the system care. The statute reads and I quote "IF you are physically able to perform ANY job you aren't qualified for disability"
    You have no clue if some one is taking advantage of the system. None. Just because some one got a better parking spot than you is not a reason to get pissed.
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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Working people that see these people taking advantage of the system care. The statute reads and I quote "IF you are physically able to perform ANY job you aren't qualified for disability"


    Obviously that can't be correct.

    Anybody who can sit and use their hands could be a computer guy.... IF they knew how. However people can be on disability for things that would not prevent them from sitting and typing on a keyboard... and this makes sense.

    Take some guy who barely graduated high school and spends the next 20 years working the loading dock, but he hurts his back. He's no longer able to lift anything heavy most days; driving for more than an hour causes severe pain; etc. Well, he's effectively disabled for any job he could actually GET, given his education and experience. I suppose we could try to retrain him as a computer programmer but honestly if he barely passed HS and spent 20 yrs on the dock how well is that likely to go? (not too very)

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    Re: What does disability mean to you and who qualifies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    To qualify for Disability, the definition is strict, and defined under able-employment. As a diagnostic category, however, disability is a great deal more broad.
    The statute reads "if you can perform ANY job, you can't qualify for disability" now you see people drawing and working and it is legal according to todays government.

    I will keep giving these people hell, I doubt the horse rider will be back.

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