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    So Who Won?

    Lets count our chickens before they hatch. A deal has been reached, and the only possible place it might fail is in the house, but it will most likely make it through with some moderate republican votes. So who won? Not in terms of the effects of the bill, but which side got more of what they wanted, got the better deal from the compromise? What details I can find: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default - CNN.com

    Reid said the Senate deal under discussion would reopen the government, funding it until January 15. It also would raise the debt limit until February 7 to avert a possible default on U.S. debt obligations for the first time.
    Also, the White House supports a provision in the deal that strengthens verification measures for people getting subsidies under Obamacare, spokesman Jay Carney said.
    Carney called the change "a modest adjustment," and said it didn't amount to "ransom" for raising the federal debt ceiling because both sides agreed to it and the White House supported it.
    In addition, the Senate agreement would set up budget negotiations between the House and Senate for a long-term spending plan.
    Senate leaders announce tentative budget deal | Fox News

    The framework on the Senate side would raise the debt ceiling through Feb. 7, and include a spending bill meant to last through Jan. 15. The plan would not include any provision relating to the ObamaCare medical device tax, as prior plans did; instead it would include a single provision meant to verify the income of those receiving ObamaCare subsidies. It would also instruct a bipartisan budget committee to report back on a broader plan by mid-December.

    Deal reached to avoid default and open government

    In addition to raising the debt limit, the proposal would give lawmakers a vote to disapprove the increase. Obama would have the right to veto their opposition, ensuring he would prevail.

    House and Senate negotiators would be appointed to seek a deficit-reduction deal. At the last minute, Reid and McConnell jettisoned a plan to give federal agencies increased flexibility in coping with the effects of across-the-board cuts. Officials said that would be a topic for the negotiations expected to begin shortly.

    The deal would provide back pay to the 800,000 federal workers affected by the shutdown, including half who have been idled for more than two weeks.

    Despite initial Republican demands for the defunding of the health care law often derided as "Obamacare," the pending agreement makes only one modest change touching on the program. It relates to a requirement that individuals and families seeking subsidies to purchase coverage verify their incomes before qualifying.
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    McConnell said that with the Senate accord, Republicans had sealed a deal to have spending in one area of the budget decline for two years in a row, adding, "we're not going back."
    If any one has any better details on the bill, please link them.

    So, with what we know now, did republicans or democrats get a better deal on the compromise?
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    Re: So Who Won?

    Oh great we get to do this again soon.

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Oh great we get to do this again soon.
    This. Is it me or is holding up the budget to extract last minute concessions the new normal?

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Per usual, Big Government won and the people of the US lost.

    It's becoming a "thing".

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Honestly the folks who won are those who accomplished the least, on both sides, the guys who remained the most ideologically pure and refused any compromise and thus did not contribute to any accomplishment or accomplish anything themselves won out. They will be able to go back and fairly safe in their re-election knowing full well that most voters demand ideological purity over results and those among them looking at a 2016 Presidential run will be able to drag this back up a few years now and point to their more moderate comrades, who may have actually sat down and worked this deal out, of being weak-spine and a sell out.

    And voters, voters will take someone who accomplished nothing over someone who did.

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    Re: So Who Won?

    As of right now, Democrats - but it's temporary and not all that purposeful for the time being.

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Per usual, Big Government won and the people of the US lost.

    It's becoming a "thing".
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Honestly the folks who won are those who accomplished the least, on both sides, the guys who remained the most ideologically pure and refused any compromise and thus did not contribute to any accomplishment or accomplish anything themselves won out. They will be able to go back and fairly safe in their re-election knowing full well that most voters demand ideological purity over results and those among them looking at a 2016 Presidential run will be able to drag this back up a few years now and point to their more moderate comrades, who may have actually sat down and worked this deal out, of being weak-spine and a sell out.

    And voters, voters will take someone who accomplished nothing over someone who did.
    This is about who got the most from the deal. Please focus on that.
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    Re: So Who Won?

    I don't know, because I don't understand exactly what the republicans wanted to accomplish. It seems like the dems just wanted to keep the government funded with as little compromise as possible.
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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    As of right now, Democrats - but it's temporary and not all that purposeful for the time being.
    Could you expand on what you mean by the bolded part please?
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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    I don't know, because I don't understand exactly what the republicans wanted to accomplish. It seems like the dems just wanted to keep the government funded with as little compromise as possible.
    Did the dems get that?
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