ive stated this many times before it wasn't about killing Obama care now it was all about drawing a line and showing the American public who was on what side of that line republicans and democrats. the only time the shut down will be remembered a year from now is when the public remembers who where the ones who fought to keep the train wreck of Obama care from happening
The GOP did. Boehner played a pretty good game. Reid had already agreed to the budget number. By pressing the ACA crap (which EVERYONE PAYING ATTENTION KNEW WOULDN'T WORK) merely satisfied those GOP constituents who were promised that 'we will repeal Obamacare'. By attempting to press defund, device tax, etc. this further exemplified his/their attempt to the base that they tried 'everything they could'. In the end he is back to where he and Reid started, the perception of the GOP wasn't damaged much to those who matter (and those who don't will likely forget prior to Nov'14)...AND the sequester is unchanged INCLUDING the second tranche due to hit Jan 1 (before the next 'deadline').
Yep, mandatory budget cuts (sequester 1/2) and no new taxes...not bad.
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!
Republicans got the most because at least temporarily they got out of the corner the media had painted them into. In short, a face saving deal for Republicans. They got nothing, but claim they got something (trivial). Temporarily, Democrats got everything they want.
Better question is. Who lost? The answer to that is obvious--America.
Every time the debt ceiling/shutdown gets pushed back it's closer to the 2014 elections.
I really doubt House Republicans (the majority of them) want to have this fight before elections. The Tea Partiers in safe districts may be safe...but they'll lose their majority.
“Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.” John Maynard Keynes
it doesnt seem to me that anyone won
it is more like a failure on both sides
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken." ATATÜRK
Democrats got more of what they wanted, definitely. The republicans came out of it getting basically nothing.
And all they really did was kick the can down the road another few months.
If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.
If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.