View Poll Results: Who Won on the Budget Compromise?

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  • Democrats got a larger share of what they wanted

    54 61.36%
  • Republicans got the larger share of what they wanted

    4 4.55%
  • Both got about the same

    8 9.09%
  • Other/Don't know

    22 25.00%
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Thread: So Who Won?

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....there were no "backroom deals". It passed the same way all legislation passes.
    Our past as a country is full of backroom deals. It is true the insurance industry was in the room. But this is quite typical. I wish it was more atypical, but there was little different here.

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....there were no "backroom deals". It passed the same way all legislation passes.
    Louisiana Purchase, Cornhusker Kickback.......

    Yeah, just like always...............didn't have to bribe a single Democrat.
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    Obama and Crats clearly won this epic and colossal battle that will be immortalized in the collective progressives hearts for eternity, because progressives are never wrong and never make mistakes and if they do its because they were tricked or set up, inheriting mean and evil spirited governments from conservatives.
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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You may have missed this, but that has always been the complaint about republicans. However, voting has nothing to do with what I said.
    If Republicans voted in lockstep we would not have suffered from the kind of defeat one experiences when being stabbed in the back by one's supposed allies. McCain had his testicles removed when the North Vietnamese kept him. He has been a mean, miserable, spiteful asshole ever since. He typifies the establishment Republicans.

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Lately, it seems to me that republicans are conceding points to the democrats more than anything. Perhaps that's just the way it shows up in news stories, but...

    Still seems that way.


    The problem is that we have somehow reached a point wherein the two sides have almost exactly OPPOSITE positions...so it's far less likely that a compromise will end up making BOTH unhappy (the mark of a true compromise, and why politicians don't like doing such - it makes all the voters unhappy), because even the slightest shift towards the middle by one side means they "gave in" and "got beaten".

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    If Republicans voted in lockstep we would not have suffered from the kind of defeat one experiences when being stabbed in the back by one's supposed allies. McCain had his testicles removed when the North Vietnamese kept him. He has been a mean, miserable, spiteful asshole ever since. He typifies the establishment Republicans.
    Nonsense. Lock step isn't about being elected. It's about votes. And repeatedly both sides vote along partisan lines. To not see that says something.

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Oh great we get to do this again soon.
    Yep,you think the puppies and teabaggers, will double down and cost the country $ 48, billion the next sutdown ?


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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nonsense. Lock step isn't about being elected. It's about votes. And repeatedly both sides vote along partisan lines. To not see that says something.
    Sigh. Fortunately I do not have to correct your many errors.

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The other persons post actually addressed the subject of the thread...which was who won in terms of their legislative goals. The post in question talked about the funding levels in the bill, which is legislative in nature. Your post rambled on about making things popular (Polls, not legislative results). I'm sorry you're suffering from some sort of persecution complex in this thread, but your inability to actually address the question within the OP and need to deflect into other opinions is not a testiment to my partisnaship but perhaps your own.

    Reading comprehension is not tied to political philosophy. Neither is the ability not to ignorantly stereotype. It's not "painful" at all to me; I've suggested for some time on this forum that the Republicans were politicall wrong in their action and are likely to come out as the bigger of the two losers in this. The difference is I recognize there are a multitude of other threads discussing that and I instead attempted to focus on what was actually asked in the OP.
    Good for you. God knows, nobody should ever stray from the simple question asked in the poll. OK, I'll play the game. The Democrats won. They won because the Republicans lost.

    You can go back to your role of making sure nobody strays from the path you have defined. I can't help but notice that lots of other folks did exactly the same thing, but you, with your infinite wisdom, decided to single me out. I feel honored.
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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....there were no "backroom deals". It passed the same way all legislation passes.
    Sshhhh! It's standard right wing delusion that anything that happens is because of some nefarious trick played by those liberal rascals! Living in the real world is not their forte.
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