"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
I don't believe either side "won".
The Dems didn't win because all they did was stave off the Reps... and for only three months at that. They didn't gain anything they would have liked to have gained.
The Reps, however, did lose. They gained pretty much nothing of what they wanted, and they lost big time in public opinion and prestige. The Dems were just as duplicitous as the Reps, only more subtle, and for right or for wrong, the voters haven't blamed them as much.
If, when defending your support for Donald Trump, and your response is,
"But but but... HILLARY!!!", then you lost the argument before you even began.
When even GOP leader Boehner admits they did not win this fight how in heavens name can even the most rabid GOP partisan vote otherwise in a poll like this? The damn general admits defeat already.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers
Early voting in Georgia. On the 20th of October this old Goldwater conservative voted against both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton by casting my vote for Gary Johnson. Neither Trump or Clinton belong within a million miles of the Oval Office.
It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
"Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911
Of the two, by the standards of the OP, the Democrats won this one. They managed to get through the Fiscal Year end and Debt Ceiling debates without making any significant concessions. On the flip side, the Republicans actions actually COST the government money. In terms of legislative action, and not political strategy, the Democrats came out the victor.
"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.
what planet are you guys on the dems got less......1. they did not get the amount of money they wanted we agreed to the republican amount they wanted... 2. the sequester is still in affect.. hope i spelled that right....which is a double cut since last budget.amount....so the repubs got more just not everything...do the math not talking points...
The Dems won a minor battle that they had set up from 2010......they win kudos for putting the Whipped Cream Pie in the Repubs face. Despite knowing back in in 2010 that the Republican filibuster could stop anything they presented.
But did they really win? Obama and the Dems did not want to deal with this issue in a couple of months again. They wanted to get that immigration issue going for one thing. Election time is coming. Also they wanted to get around Obama's Sequester, that Budget Control Act. As it is limiting them from getting their spending off. Not to mention Obama had trips planned to try and at least make a showing in his Asian Foreign Policy.
Yep Repubs cost the Country 24 Billion in this short amount time. How much has the Sequester cost.....in 2 years?
I want the three people who think the Republicans won this farce in my next poker game.
"Groups with guitars are on the way out, Mr. Epstein"
Dick Rowe, A & R man