View Poll Results: Who Won on the Budget Compromise?

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  • Democrats got a larger share of what they wanted

    54 61.36%
  • Republicans got the larger share of what they wanted

    4 4.55%
  • Both got about the same

    8 9.09%
  • Other/Don't know

    22 25.00%
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Thread: So Who Won?

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Present Moment Awareness--not your forte d-boy..
    Ad hominem noted...
    and I would be correct..and you would be wrong..
    But you have yet to substantiate that spending bills must begin in the house. Weird, do you think that just because you believe it makes it a fact?
    Oh my--are you saying there were no taxes in this CR??
    There were no NEW taxes included in this CR but please correct me if I'm wrong.
    no tax-collecting until mid-Jan.??
    Huh? Were taxes not collected over the last two weeks during the shutdown? You know while were didn't have a CR...
    I guess Repubs really did win then, since they are tax scofflaws..
    Yes, this has been my assertion. The GOP did win. Sequester remains untouched, second tranche of sequester will be enacted untouched Jan 1 AND no new revenue (taxes)...
    You present no challenge/challenges .
    Actually I have, I'll restate it, where in the Constitution does it state spending bills must originate in the House.
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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post



    It will be forgotten, but it will also be used as a bullet point by opponents of Republicans.
    Exactly....conservative Dems will be talking about true fiscal irresponsibility....dragging the country repeatedly to the brink of default is not fiscal responsibility.

    That message for some of the more conservative cities will mean something...the suburbs etc.
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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The fact that the GOP didn't have enough votes to pass a bill to defund Obamacare.
    Yep, that's a fact...which I never presented a position that differed.


    Didn't Obama and Harry Reid win the 2012 election?
    Yep, that's a fact...which I never presented a position that differed.

    What was he referring to?
    The 2010 election results which is what I initiated this line of discussion with after you stated 'the 2012 election was a referendum on PPACA'.

    You just keep proving my assertion....
    How so?

    I was mistaken....Heritage Foundation was founded by the Coors....however......
    Thank you for acknowledging a FACT.

    Heritage Foundation is also a part of the Koch Foundation Associate Program.....
    Yes they are, and that means what exactly?
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    I have been hearing this a lot on TV. I fail to see the logic. How did shutting down the government cost extra money? I am not that dumb but my imagination can't conjure up a theory. Someone help me out. Why did the shutdown cost extra money?

    vasuderatorrent
    Well, it certtainly cost the economy quite a bit. Estimates are about $22B or so. Its affected GDP slightly. In the end, that will hit tax revenue.

    You've also basically given federal employees three weeks paid vacation. 800k workers. We paid them. No productivity - they didnt collect fines, fees, national park admissions, etc. The FDA shut down, thus delaying any drug approvals, and the corresponding millions that they collect in user fees. Whats the interest on $100MM in a bank account for three weeks?

    Working on an NIH grant with hundreds of rare genetically bred mice bloodlines? You're screwed out of your lab for three weeks. And you sacrifice lots of expensive animals for no real reason. So much for that experiment. Studying whales in the arctic? If you have a grant and your research is dependent upon NOAA ships, looks like your data collection window is destroyed for the next six months.

    Thats just off the top of my head.

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    Re: So Who Won?

    This is why republicans lost:

    See This 'Daily Show' Reporter Lose His Cool When He's Confronted With Stupidity, Naturally

    And they have at present lost with voters. They can win them back, but they are losers at the moment.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Coors is piss water, you weren't missing anything.
    When I lived in Colorado a long time ago we had a question. How is Coors beer like having sex in a canoe? They are both f****** close to water.

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Exactly....conservative Dems will be talking about true fiscal irresponsibility....dragging the country repeatedly to the brink of default is not fiscal responsibility.

    That message for some of the more conservative cities will mean something...the suburbs etc.
    Isn't that an oxymoron?

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Isn't that an oxymoron?
    Compared to liberalism around the world, most are closer to the right.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Compared to liberalism around the world, most are closer to the right.
    That explains why they all vote essentially in lockstep...

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    Re: So Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    That explains why they all vote essentially in lockstep...
    You may have missed this, but that has always been the complaint about republicans. However, voting has nothing to do with what I said.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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