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Do you support Obamacare?

Should Obamacare be eliminated?


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Regardless of your original view, do you support Obamacare now?

Many promises were made for legislation we couldn't know what it was until after it was passed. Everyone would be insured and have affordable medical care. The poor would have free insurance. Medical costs would go down as would insurance premiums. etc. etc.

The reality?

Insurance for the poor was cancelled after only 133,000 people.
Insurance premiums have gone up from 20% to 100% for less coverage.
High deductables make it so many people with such insurance still can not afford major medical care.
Millions of employees have lost their employment insurance - something that could not happen prior to Obamacare.
Millions of people have been laid off or reduced to part-time employees.
An increasing number of doctors are refusing to accept insurance or retiring.
The government faces long term shut down and gridlock.
Congress had degraded to extreme militant partisanship.
We are days away from massive national and worldwide economic collapse. Basically to destroy everything else, cause world chaos and probably millions worldwide starving to death - all to have Obamacare.
To name a few "downsides" to Obamacare" - a title the President wants it to have.

The Upsides as reason to keep Obamacare?
Eliminating Obamacare would look bad for Obama
and ???

Seeing the unfolding real-life effects, do you support Obamacare? Or do you think it should be replaced with something else?

Do you now support Obamacare?
 
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Regardless of your original view, do you support Obamacare now?

Many promises were made for legislation we couldn't know what it was until after it was passed. Everyone would be insured and have affordable medical care. The poor would have free insurance. Medical costs would go down as would insurance premiums. etc. etc.

The reality?

Insurance for the poor was cancelled after only 133,000 people.
Insurance premiums have gone up from 20% to 100% for less coverage.
High deductables make it so many people with such insurance still can not afford major medical care.
Millions of employees have lost their employment insurance - something that could not happen prior to Obamacare.
Millions of people have been laid off or reduced to part-time employees.
An increasing number of doctors are refusing to accept insurance or retiring.
The government is shut down.
We are days away from massive national and worldwide economic collapse. Basically to destroy everything else, cause world chaos and probably millions worldwide starving to death - all to have Obamacare.
To name a few "downsides" to Obamacare" - a title the President wants it to have.

The Upsides as reason to keep Obamacare?
Eliminating Obamacare would look bad for Obama and Democrats
and ???

Seeing the unfolding real-life effects, do you support Obamacare? Or do you think it should be replaced with something else?

Do you now support

I think pretty much everything in this post is a lie. Don't believe any of it.
 
Getting ANY reform is enough for me. The rest will fall into place.
 
Regardless of your original view, do you support Obamacare now?

Many promises were made for legislation we couldn't know what it was until after it was passed. Everyone would be insured and have affordable medical care. The poor would have free insurance. Medical costs would go down as would insurance premiums. etc. etc.

The reality?

Insurance for the poor was cancelled after only 133,000 people.
Insurance premiums have gone up from 20% to 100% for less coverage.
High deductables make it so many people with such insurance still can not afford major medical care.
Millions of employees have lost their employment insurance - something that could not happen prior to Obamacare.
Millions of people have been laid off or reduced to part-time employees.
An increasing number of doctors are refusing to accept insurance or retiring.
The government faces long term shut down and gridlock.
Congress had degraded to extreme militant partisanship.
We are days away from massive national and worldwide economic collapse. Basically to destroy everything else, cause world chaos and probably millions worldwide starving to death - all to have Obamacare.
To name a few "downsides" to Obamacare" - a title the President wants it to have.

The Upsides as reason to keep Obamacare?
Eliminating Obamacare would look bad for Obama
and ???

Seeing the unfolding real-life effects, do you support Obamacare? Or do you think it should be replaced with something else?

Do you now support Obamacare?

Eliminate the red portion and you got it right.
 
Dude, my HC from place of employment just raised my yearly deductible to $7,500.00.

Bring on the ACA!
 
Re: Do you support ObamaCare?

I think pretty much everything in this post is a lie. Don't believe any of it.

I neither believe nor disbelieve.
NO VOTE
What the original poster states is the opposite of "fair and balanced, and this bias is so obvious.
I do believe that only a very few are falling for this crap.
Further-more, the ACA (forget ObamaCare) will need a major change , single payer with government insurance......
This will really awaken the conservative-extremist.
 
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I neither believe nor disbelieve.
NO VOTE
What the original poster states is the opposite of "fair and balanced, and this bias is so obvious.
I do believe that only a very few are falling for this crap.

Name the positives of Obamacare.
 

Pretty much all of it, from the promises you claim are made to your claims of reality, which is anything but. If you cannot formulate an honest poll, when you have to lie to make your point, that says something.
 
No one yet has presented anything positive about Obamacare in real terms. Rather just partisan raging and flaming trying to divert.

Make your case if you got one. It is not rare at all for someone on the forum to change my opinion and if so I openly acknowledge doing so.
 
I am sick of hearing about Obamacare.









Does Obamacare cover that???

Ask John Roberts to provide you a remedy. he's the person responsible for it still being around
 
You claim to be an expert and you know nothing about it. So typical.


well most of those who voted for that abomination knew nothing about it either but supported it because Obama wanted it
 
well most of those who voted for that abomination knew nothing about it either but supported it because Obama wanted it

Just about every President since Truman wanted healthcare reform, Obama just got it done.
 
No one yet has presented anything positive about Obamacare in real terms. Rather just partisan raging and flaming trying to divert.

Make your case if you got one. It is not rare at all for someone on the forum to change my opinion and if so I openly acknowledge doing so.

There has been plenty of discussion about the pros and cons. It's not our fault if you won't listen. But since you might be disabled, I'll post this list anyway.

1. Goodbye doughnut hole. Medicare drug plans (Part D of Medicare) stop providing insurance to people after their claims for covered drugs hit a certain level ($2,970 in 2013), and coverage doesn't resume until spending hits another level ($4,750 in 2013). Health care reform is closing this doughnut hole in annual stages, and it will be totally closed by 2020. Savings to Medicare beneficiaries will be in the tens of billions of dollars.

2. Free Medicare preventive services. Health care reform greatly expanded the menu of free preventive services to Medicare consumers.

3. Free preventive services to all women. Health insurance plans have added eight women's health benefits because of the law, in areas including breastfeeding, contraception, domestic violence, gestational diabetes, HIV screening and counseling, sexual diseases and wellness visits. These benefits are free, meaning they involve no co-payment or co-insurance, and women don't need to meet their plan deductibles to use these free services.

4. Pre-existing conditions. Beginning in 2014, no one can be denied health insurance because of a pre-existing medical condition.

5. Premium equity. Insurers can't gouge people with pre-existing conditions by forcing them to pay unreasonably high premiums. The law also limits insurers' ability to impose age-related premium increases for private coverage.

6. End of pre-existing restrictions on children's access to health insurance. The law has ended insurance denials based on pre-existing conditions for the roughly 20 million children under age 19.

7. Adult dependent insurance coverage. Adult children up to age 26 can now continue to get health insurance on their parent's policies.

8. Insurance payout limits. The law will end lifetime limits on insurance payouts. It also has been phasing out annual coverage limits, and these will be completely outlawed for insurance plans taking effect next year.

9. Minimum medical loss ratio for insurers. Health insurers must spend at least 85 percent of their premium dollars on health care (80 percent for smaller group plans) or rebate shortfalls to consumers.

10. New consumer health coverage reports. Consumers have begun receiving a standardized report explaining their health insurance. This seemingly modest accomplishment is actually a big deal. For the first time, different health insurance plans have to present their coverage details in the same format, using the same language. Consumers can now accurately compare different health insurance plans.

10 Good Things About Obamacare - The Best Life (usnews.com)
 
Do you now support Obamacare?

I do not support forcing companies or individuals to purchase insurance. The 30 million Americans who do not have insurance don't have it because they can't afford it.So most likely these 30 million people are going to be subsidized. Who is going to subsidize these 30 million people? Most likely those who already have insurance are going to be paying for those 30 million who originally did not have insurance, meaning their rates go up(which is probably somewhere in that two thousand plus page bill regarding the employer and individual mandates). I do support requiring insurance companies to accept preexisting medical conditions.
 
Just about every President since Truman wanted healthcare reform, Obama just got it done.

The liberal mantra is to DO SOMETHING even if its the worst possible course of action
 
Yes, dump the lemon before it causes more suffering.

Lulz. Joko appears to be from the future.

Anyway, voted the last one, with emphasis on "replace" as opposed to "scrap and start over."
 
Lulz. Joko appears to be from the future.

Anyway, voted the last one, with emphasis on "replace" as opposed to "scrap and start over."
I know what I would like to see replace the ACA. I'm sure, without going in to detail, you can guess what my idea is by looking at my username lol. What would you like to see replace it?
 
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