View Poll Results: What kind of welfare do you support?

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  • tax payer funded assistance for the poor(food stamps/snap, WIC, section 8 and etc.)

    41 58.57%
  • corporate welfare(tax breaks, subsidies/grants and ect.)

    6 8.57%
  • foreign aid(financial aid, military aid and etc.)

    18 25.71%
  • other

    15 21.43%
  • None of the above.

    21 30.00%
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    Re: What kind of welfare do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's good to be reminded that people do grow out of that phase sometimes. Highfive buddy.
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    Re: What kind of welfare do you support?

    I only support it for the poor and then, only on a very limited basis, with the exception of those who are permanently disabled or not mentally able to perform useful work. Otherwise, it should only be a short-term safety net that catches people when they fall and puts them back on their feet, whether they want it to or not.
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    Re: What kind of welfare do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    yeah, i used to be a libertarian; i remember that one.
    It's just playing pretend to tax corporations. The only entity that can ever pay taxes is people, so as he said you might as well just tax people. Of course, the income is already taxed individually.

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    Re: What kind of welfare do you support?

    I feel people on walfare that can work should take care of orther welfare children in childcare for that welfare check and others can do some jobs that don't need a lot of education for the gov. for their welfare check..at minium wages or for the wage that job demands...no illegal parents should not get anything from the government...the law should be changed that one parent must be a citizen of the united states for the child to be a citizen extremely simple and fair

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    Re: What kind of welfare do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    If you are upright and 98.6, two arms two legs two eyes and a fair IQ, Zero assistance.
    Get fired, laid off, company closes. You get 6 weeks un employment. Period.
    Too many kids, well YOU made them. Not me.
    I know too many people right now sitting at home on their asses collecting a check for aches and sprains that 99% of us just shake off and deal with.
    I have had two knee ops. Still work. Arthrites in both hands, still work. Sleep issues, still work. Nerve damage in one foot, still work.
    Billions are being bled out for BS ailments. Draining our country dry.
    While I liked what you have said, I have to take you to task for over generalizing. My sister fits all of the bolded criteria, but because of back issues she is incapable of lifting over 15lb. Well at least if she wants to keep her 2 legs working. She at least is working at getting her Master's so that she can get a good paying job, unlike many others on Disability.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I think we grossly overspend when it comes to government contracts of any nature, but that doesn't mean I think we should eliminate those contracts entirely.
    We also shouldn't just take the lowest bid either. Quality should be weighed with cost.

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    Re: What kind of welfare do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I only support it for the poor and then, only on a very limited basis, with the exception of those who are permanently disabled or not mentally able to perform useful work. Otherwise, it should only be a short-term safety net that catches people when they fall and puts them back on their feet, whether they want it to or not.
    Is justice found by making the state charitable? Is it not true that everyone will have good reasons that they should in turn be provided benefits from the state? Do you know why we are at the point we are? Because these kind of policies make everyone into petitioners and they will in turn get benefits at the expense of everyone else.

    It's absolute foolishness to think you can demand the state owe substance and well being to one group and not every other group. It's absolute foolishness to think the state will be generous and charitable towards one group and no one else. There is a reason the welfare state has never been limited to only those in the most need of assistance.
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    Re: What kind of welfare do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Foreign aid in the form of food is a tad different from foreign aid in the form of bombs.
    It's born from the same idea. That it's the duty of the state to provide for the subsistence and well-being of the people and the world. How do you provide for the well-being of the world if you don't help them militarily?

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    Re: What kind of welfare do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I dont support any form of federal welfare, as its unconsitutional and inefficient. I might support some tax funded local assistance for my community under the right circumstances.
    I am inline with this, however state government can also give assistance to the people of their state, well as local, but federal ...no, its not a delegated power of government.

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    Re: What kind of welfare do you support?

    Some of all 3 is good. A minimal safety net is necessary. Some subsidies need to exist for products that create positive externalities. Some foreign is necessary, especially in unstable regions.

    Most of all 3 needs to be cut.

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    Re: What kind of welfare do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Some of all 3 is good. A minimal safety net is necessary. Some subsidies need to exist for products that create positive externalities. Some foreign is necessary, especially in unstable regions.

    Most of all 3 needs to be cut.
    Why is a minimal safety net necessary? If we are going to provide subsidies for products that create positive externalities than why not tax products that cause negative externalities? Does the former not go hand in hand with the later? Why do we need to provide foreign aid to other countries? What benefit do we get out of it? Do I get any services in return for it?

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