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    Re: Is this the best time (overall) to be alive in human history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Today sucks!

    The PC is killing my eyes (so as I am seriously considering getting rid of it), food is full of **** (additives, preservatives, E101, GMO, etc), bankers gone wild, crime, people are unhappy... I'd take the 50's any time.
    Ah yes... the 50s... blatant sexism, racism, US expansionism, covert wars and gangsterism. That's the time we want to go back to.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Is this the best time (overall) to be alive in human history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    The best time for anyone to be alive is whenever that particular person thinks is the best time, not when someone tries to convince them is the best time.

    It's too bad this obvious rule of thumb has been subordinated to Liberal political demands that all other times in American history were bad because America is a bad, bad country needing many Liberal improvements.
    It's not that America was bad, it was mediocre though and much like the countries we rebelled against. The middle class is what made America unique and a "star" in the world. The middle class did not exist in any quantity before the 1940's. And yes FDR changed things for the better.

    This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rights—among them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.

    As our nation has grown in size and stature, however—as our industrial economy expanded—these political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.

    We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. “Necessitous men are not free men.”[3] People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.

    In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed
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    Re: Is this the best time (overall) to be alive in human history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ah yes... the 50s... blatant sexism, racism, US expansionism, covert wars and gangsterism. That's the time we want to go back to.
    Are you sure you write about the 50's, not the 30's?




    P.S. Just one of the video comments on YouTube:

    think for a moment. 2013....400 bank failures in 3 years, the mortgage melt down, America involved in "multiple" wars, a broke government trillions in debt, terrorism, constitutional rights quickly eroding in the name of "security", the federal government shutting down over the "debt Cieling", a crumbling infrastructure, thousands of manufacturing jobs leaving the country, the vanishing middle class, not exactly the best time to live
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    Re: Is this the best time (overall) to be alive in human history?

    think for a moment. 2013....400 bank failures in 3 years,
    25% poverty rate.

    the mortgage melt down,
    As opposed to massive poverty.

    America involved in "multiple" wars,
    Koreas, First Indochina War, Cold War - and that's just the ones we know about.

    a broke government trillions in debt,
    What? We weren't broke in the 50s - oh right. We were less in debt.

    terrorism
    That didn't exist in the 50s? Lol.

    constitutional rights quickly eroding in the name of "security"
    2 words: McCarthy Hearings.

    the federal government shutting down over the "debt Cieling"
    A political crisis? Oh no. That definitely makes the 50s better! There were no political crisis in the 50s.

    , a crumbling infrastructure


    This kind?

    , thousands of manufacturing jobs leaving the country, the vanishing middle class,
    I'm glad these two went together. Tell us - if you owned a business: how would you accomplish having a cheap work force and a middle class at the same time?

    not exactly the best time to live
    If you look at it through selective nostalgia glasses, it's definitely not. YouTube comments are written by people who know less about the 50s than you seem to. Obviously, I won't convince somebody who thinks terrorism is a problem now and constitutional rights weren't being destroyed by politicians then. It just seems silly to try and argue that an age where people could still be lynched and beating women was hushed is better than today.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 10-14-13 at 04:27 AM.
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    Re: Is this the best time (overall) to be alive in human history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ah yes... the 50s... blatant sexism, racism, US expansionism, covert wars and gangsterism. That's the time we want to go back to.
    Certainly no problem with any of that in 2013 Mexico.
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    Re: Is this the best time (overall) to be alive in human history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Certainly no problem with any of that in 2013 Mexico.
    Ah, so we're now comparing ****ty 3rd world countries to ****ty decades from the 1st? Apples to oranges?
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Is this the best time (overall) to be alive in human history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    25% poverty rate.
    It depends on what you consider poverty.



    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It just seems silly to try and argue that an age where people could still be lynched and beating women was hushed is better than today
    Yeah, silly me, I just feel like in Orwell's "1984" where the Party wants me to think we are so better off than our ancestors.

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    Re: Is this the best time (overall) to be alive in human history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ah yes... the 50s... blatant sexism, racism, US expansionism, covert wars and gangsterism. That's the time we want to go back to.
    Racism existed, but was mostly in the South. Sexism? Give me a break. Women could work and attend universities if they wanted to. Feminists like Steinem and Dworkin made 50's housewives out to be chattel, when the reality is they had a great deal of freedom and the highest standard of living compared to women of previous generations.
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    Re: Is this the best time (overall) to be alive in human history?

    Yep, and it can only get better long as we don't ruin it.
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    Re: Is this the best time (overall) to be alive in human history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    In my opinion, this is the best time to be alive in human history, on an overall level. Obviously if you look at specific people or countries, you can say it's worse now (such as comparing Syria now to Syria 5 years ago), but on a global scale this is the best year ever. This video made by the BBC statistically demonstrates this:

    Hans Rosling's 200 Countries, 200 Years, 4 Minutes - The Joy of Stats - BBC Four - YouTube


    Basically, never before have so many people had such a long lifespan and such a high standard of living. The income figures shown are in real terms, meaning they adjust for inflation. The reason I am making this a poll is because there seems to be a fallacy (in my opinion) that a lot of people have today that life was somehow better back in the '50s and '60s. People have this illusion of a golden era. I say it's just nostalgia goggles, and that we humans are much much better off than ever before.
    Yes. Unquestionably. The possibility afforded to us today exceeds that of all other eras. Even if we were talking about relatively short time spans it would be a terrible mistake to yearn for the 1990's or the 1950's. When I think about the incredible bounty we have awaiting us as we move forward in the 21st Century, especially as our scientific and technological achievements continue to accelerate, I can't imagine anything worse than rolling back the clock.

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