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  • All cameras should be abolished

    50 49.50%
  • Abolish red light cameras only

    5 4.95%
  • Abolish speeding cameras only

    7 6.93%
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    0 0%
  • Allow all cameras to remain in use

    28 27.72%
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Yup, and I would rather the officers be out there catching criminals and stopping crime rather than handing out citations.
    So you are saying that dangerous traffic violations are not criminal?

    If that is the case, why should someone have to pay in excess of $400 when they fail to completely stop at an intersection?

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Edit: Took me two minutes to pay . . . they took PayPal. How's that for convenience?
    That isn't too bad, you're still out the money though.

    For us they send us regular traffic tickets, but those are easy enough to pay online.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    The government does not need to be running surveillance on its citizenry, period.


    If they want to see what we're doing in traffic, then let them get out there with us in a vehicle and take their chances with the rest of us.


    We have little enough privacy left as it is. Liberty is more important than safety.
    Did you know that when police watch you from their cars, they are running surveillance on the citizenry? This is why libertarians are the butt of jokes.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Way too complicated. We must abolish the law and do away with cameras.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Did you know that when police watch you from their cars, they are running surveillance on the citizenry? This is why libertarians are the butt of jokes.


    The number of police, and their impact on the average person's life, is limited.


    The number of cameras is potentially unlimited. Given modern computer analysis and data storage, the ability to flag any video or stillshot with a person or action of interest in it, the capacity for public surveillance cameras to impact the life of the citizenry is immense.... as in, worse than merely Orwellian.


    There's the diff.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    The number of police, and their impact on the average person's life, is limited.


    The number of cameras is potentially unlimited. Given modern computer analysis and data storage, the ability to flag any video or stillshot with a person or action of interest in it, the capacity for public surveillance cameras to impact the life of the citizenry is immense.... as in, worse than merely Orwellian.


    There's the diff.
    But the number of camera's at intersections is quite limited, which is what we are talking about. Not everything is a conspiracy by the ebil gubment to keep you down man.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    But the number of camera's at intersections is quite limited, which is what we are talking about. Not everything is a conspiracy by the ebil gubment to keep you down man.

    Limiting the scope of discussion to limit the scope of debate... nope, not today.


    There are cameras at intersections. There are cameras every few miles on the Interstates. There are police cameras downtown.

    I'm talking about ALL of them, whether you are or not.


    Bad enough we have so many government agents and agencies poking their noses into everything. Worse when they can do so remotely via masses of cameras and computer analysis of same.


    That kind of surveillance state (and unless something is done to stop it, it will just get more and more universal) is not conducive to liberty.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Limiting the scope of discussion to limit the scope of debate... nope, not today.


    There are cameras at intersections. There are cameras every few miles on the Interstates. There are police cameras downtown.

    I'm talking about ALL of them, whether you are or not.


    Bad enough we have so many government agents and agencies poking their noses into everything. Worse when they can do so remotely via masses of cameras and computer analysis of same.


    That kind of surveillance state (and unless something is done to stop it, it will just get more and more universal) is not conducive to liberty.
    Yeah, because god knows we would not want to have safe roads. So much better to pay more for a bunch of police and have them watching instead of having cameras do it cheaper and better.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yeah, because god knows we would not want to have safe roads. So much better to pay more for a bunch of police and have them watching instead of having cameras do it cheaper and better.

    Nope. We have plenty of police. Too many, if anything.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Nope. We have plenty of police. Too many, if anything.
    So you want less safe roads in the name of not having any one see your car. That's rational....
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