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  • All cameras should be abolished

    50 49.50%
  • Abolish red light cameras only

    5 4.95%
  • Abolish speeding cameras only

    7 6.93%
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    0 0%
  • Allow all cameras to remain in use

    28 27.72%
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Have to once again throw the BS flag at you. The rental agency has you sign a rental agreement AND you have to use a credit card. The car rental agency gets the ticket, because it is the license plate not a facial recognition that identifies who gets the ticket. So the car rental folks charge your credit card PLUS a fee. (read your agreement)

    You not being there in no way prevents a 'conviction', the owner of the vehicle is held responsible and like I said they just turn around and charge the card with which the car was rented.
    Not on corporate rentals, I have NEVER been charged and have tossed those contractor tickets every time. Our contract is spelled out, no charges outside our agreement. You should learn the law before spouting off. Progressives love one size fits all, they just need to grow up and step outside the cubicle once in a while.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Not on corporate rentals, I have NEVER been charged and have tossed those contractor tickets every time. Our contract is spelled out, no charges outside our agreement. You should learn the law before spouting off. Progressives love one size fits all, they just need to grow up and step outside the cubicle once in a while.
    You have made up many of your facts before this is no surprise- NO rental agency would allow a blanket agreement like that. NO rental agency would just eat the fines and fees, and for that matter any damage done to the vehicle because it is 'corporate'.

    Someone paid the tickets, they don't disappear.

    CONs need to remember many of us have experience outside the cubicle, and some of us never spent a day in one....

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    You have made up many of your facts before this is no surprise- NO rental agency would allow a blanket agreement like that. NO rental agency would just eat the fines and fees, and for that matter any damage done to the vehicle because it is 'corporate'.

    Someone paid the tickets, they don't disappear.

    CONs need to remember many of us have experience outside the cubicle, and some of us never spent a day in one....
    they don't charge us for tickets, never have, never will. Progressives just do not understand how the world works, this is no surprise with their one size fits all mentality.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    they don't charge us for tickets, never have, never will. Progressives just do not understand how the world works, this is no surprise with their one size fits all mentality.
    More CON BS. I'll tell you how the world works.

    First 'they' would never send you the camera ticket, like you falsely claim (you tend to trap yourself in your BS), as 'they' have no way of knowing who was driving. 'They' will look up who the vehicle is registered to (the rental agency) and send them a ticket. The rental car place looks up who they billed and sends your corporation a bill which includes a fee. Corporate looks to see who drove the vehicle and that dummy pays the ticket PLUS the fee.

    That is how Northrup-Grumman did it, a corporation you may have heard of????

    So just like your claim there were only 3000 medical codes before ACA, you are once again shown to just make crap up. Your story went from 'I just throw the tickets away' to 'they don't charge us for tickets'

    Your CON fu is very weak.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    More CON BS. I'll tell you how the world works.

    First 'they' would never send you the camera ticket, like you falsely claim (you tend to trap yourself in your BS), as 'they' have no way of knowing who was driving. 'They' will look up who the vehicle is registered to (the rental agency) and send them a ticket. The rental car place looks up who they billed and sends your corporation a bill which includes a fee. Corporate looks to see who drove the vehicle and that dummy pays the ticket PLUS the fee.

    That is how Northrup-Grumman did it, a corporation you may have heard of????

    So just like your claim there were only 3000 medical codes before ACA, you are once again shown to just make crap up. Your story went from 'I just throw the tickets away' to 'they don't charge us for tickets'

    Your CON fu is very weak.
    yes they do, I have received more than one for 295 from DC to Baltimore. The contractor contacts Hertz, they give them your license number and address, the ticket gets mailed to you with a bunch of liberal fear mongering tactics " you will lose your privileges with hertz", " we will send to a collection agency". All BS much like your knowledge of the subject.

    I can tell by your post that you have no ****ing idea about the provisions in a corporate contract and differences between that and an individual contract.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    LOL...

    If it has enough power...
    My wife has her old 49 cc Moped in storage that she just hangs onto. An original Honda NSR50 (not the later small wheel version). They were street legal. It was tricked out by Honda of Hollywood. Water cooled. 6 speed. It will do 75 mph with her on it. Something like 16,000 rpms while doing it. They were TOO fast and Honda discontinued them, though their smaller wheel replacement can be built up to do over 70 too - but aren't street legal.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    More CON BS. I'll tell you how the world works.

    First 'they' would never send you the camera ticket, like you falsely claim (you tend to trap yourself in your BS), as 'they' have no way of knowing who was driving. 'They' will look up who the vehicle is registered to (the rental agency) and send them a ticket. The rental car place looks up who they billed and sends your corporation a bill which includes a fee. Corporate looks to see who drove the vehicle and that dummy pays the ticket PLUS the fee.

    That is how Northrup-Grumman did it, a corporation you may have heard of????

    So just like your claim there were only 3000 medical codes before ACA, you are once again shown to just make crap up. Your story went from 'I just throw the tickets away' to 'they don't charge us for tickets'

    Your CON fu is very weak.
    The way they get around proving who was driving it has been to call it a civil, not criminal, offense.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Have to once again throw the BS flag at you. The rental agency has you sign a rental agreement AND you have to use a credit card. The car rental agency gets the ticket, because it is the license plate not a facial recognition that identifies who gets the ticket. So the car rental folks charge your credit card PLUS a fee. (read your agreement)

    You not being there in no way prevents a 'conviction', the owner of the vehicle is held responsible and like I said they just turn around and charge the card with which the car was rented.
    This makes me think about the "horror stories" () of those reservists on AT who go to PSNS (WA) and end up forgetting to pay the toll at the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, something that is enforced by camera (granted it is really easy to miss, especially since it only gets you going back over toward Tacoma, generally a drive being made by us to get to the airport to fly home). This always happens in a rental car since we are coming from other states. They end up getting a ticket forwarded (basically) to them through the rental company.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    When I as there we were travelling at about 120 till we got to the speed cameras, in Belgium the speed limit was 130 which I think is much more reasonable. You are also right next door to the Autobahn and the Germans are fine.
    Due to congestion the maximum speed around Amsterdam is a max of 100 KMH. Which is fine compared to the number of off and on ramps you have in that area, the traffic congestion in and around Amsterdam and the health of all those that live in Amsterdam.

    The 100kmh is also because of the sound level of speeding traffic through a heavily built up area, CO2 levels and also very important particulates in the air which endanger the maximum levels that have been agreed upon in Europe.

    In large parts of the Netherlands you can drive 120khm (75mph) and on parts of our roadway system it is 130kmh (80,7mph). Only in and around major cities you will have to drive at a lower speed. In Belgium the maximum speed is also 120kmh.
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