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  • All cameras should be abolished

    50 49.50%
  • Abolish red light cameras only

    5 4.95%
  • Abolish speeding cameras only

    7 6.93%
  • Abolish other types of cameras only (specify)

    0 0%
  • Allow all cameras to remain in use

    28 27.72%
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I don't know how credible the source, but this Tampa TV station
    had a lot of info in their story.
    Florida's red-light camera intersections issuing more tickets after yellow light times quietly reduced | wtsp.com
    Interesting.

    A 2011 law change striking "whichever was greater," but still requiring a safe time, which was then changed again almost a year ago requiring a 1.4 second reaction time instead of 1.0.

    This disproves post 406, or at least shows that Joko is using outdated information.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I don't know how credible the source, but this Tampa TV station
    had a lot of info in their story.
    Florida's red-light camera intersections issuing more tickets after yellow light times quietly reduced | wtsp.com
    Excellent information - thank you!
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    in my opinion. When you see yellow, if you can make a non-emergency stop, then do so.
    If the yellow light is only one second this can easily still result in you getting a ticket.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I don't know how credible the source, but this Tampa TV station
    had a lot of info in their story.
    Florida's red-light camera intersections issuing more tickets after yellow light times quietly reduced | wtsp.com
    They have also reduced the time to less than federal standards so the danger factor is quite real. There is no manner for anyone to know how long the yellow light will last.

    When there is a major accident or fatality, I hope the State of Florida is sued over this.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    if the ticket does not come directly from the city municipal or state law enforcement I have started tossing them. Most of them are in rental cars anyway and in states that do no cooperate with mine. These contractors that send these out have no recourse for collection without a conviction anyway and they know it.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I make a retarded face and pick my nose every time I drive past one of those cameras.
    You sure this is the only time?
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    IN RECENT court decision, An Ohio Common Pleas judge ruled (after issuing preliminary injunctions) that the Village Elmwood Place actions of using cameras to issue tickets was unconstitutional and has ORDERED the village to refund the moneys so collected. The Village apparently cannot since it spent a lot of the windfall


    Great ruling-puts a nail in the coffin of these revenue gathering schemes masquerading as traffic safety.



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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    IN RECENT court decision, An Ohio Common Pleas judge ruled (after issuing preliminary injunctions) that the Village Elmwood Place actions of using cameras to issue tickets was unconstitutional and has ORDERED the village to refund the moneys so collected. The Village apparently cannot since it spent a lot of the windfall


    Great ruling-puts a nail in the coffin of these revenue gathering schemes masquerading as traffic safety.
    Yea, I read about that.

    It's BS that the cameras usage is driven by revenue generation as opposed to safety.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Yea, I read about that.

    It's BS that the cameras usage is driven by revenue generation as opposed to safety.

    I am a bit confused

    1) are you saying that the Town was really motivated by safety

    2) or the Town was Full of it claiming it was a for safety



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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    IN RECENT court decision, An Ohio Common Pleas judge ruled (after issuing preliminary injunctions) that the Village Elmwood Place actions of using cameras to issue tickets was unconstitutional and has ORDERED the village to refund the moneys so collected. The Village apparently cannot since it spent a lot of the windfall


    Great ruling-puts a nail in the coffin of these revenue gathering schemes masquerading as traffic safety.
    I was just forming the thought that perhaps the private companies that operate these red-light camera scams could be subject to lawsuits on charges related to fraud, extortion, and something akin to “impersonating a police officer”. That last, on the basis that not being a legitimate government agency, they have no genuine law-enforcement authority, and yet are claiming or at least implying such authority; and in any event, extortion if they threaten any consequences for failing to pay the ticket (since, not being a government agency, they have no authority to impose any such consequences), and fraud, because the authority on which they issue the tickets is false, along with any claimed authority to impose any penalty for failing to pay.

    But I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. What do you think, Turtledude?
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