View Poll Results: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

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  • All cameras should be abolished

    50 49.50%
  • Abolish red light cameras only

    5 4.95%
  • Abolish speeding cameras only

    7 6.93%
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    28 27.72%
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    So it isnt really about traffic cameras, its actually about progressive/liberal ideology bashing?
    He stubbed his toe yesterday. It was PC liberal/progressives fault. Also beware all his undocumted claims. They tend to be bull****.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

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    I just heard it on KFI radio 30 minutes ago when they also said he vetoed making my Ruger 10/22 illegal.
    So he did sign the AB711, which will make the use of lead bullets illegal for hunting in California by 2019. After reading through the Bill, its not as dumb as I thought and doesn't really impose anything too harsh.

    However, I do think that lead as become quite the boogeyman. I think people forget that lead is an element, and unless you are overexposed it is not harmful to your health. Additionally, if you remove yourself from the expose levels of lead in your blood will naturally dissipate.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    I actually like the cameras they set up. Ever since they went up, the more problematic intersections in town have become a lot safer to drive on. Traffic cameras are what happens when people drive like dumb assholes.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Brass, aluminum alloy bullets dont spark. Lead is actually a very hazardous material. If you do any reloading you have to take active precautions for personal health safety. Handle that lead too much and it makes you stupid.
    Lead has become a trademark boogeyman for our society.

    Sure it's hazardous, but so is aluminum or copper. Really, any metal can be poisonous if you ingest, inhale or inject too much of it into your body. The problem with lead is that we used it for a great number of things and overexposure became common.

    Handling lead bullets on occasion is not going to cause an overexposure.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    I actually like the cameras they set up. Ever since they went up, the more problematic intersections in town have become a lot safer to drive on. Traffic cameras are what happens when people drive like dumb assholes.
    But could the same results not have resulted from having an empty police car sitting at that intersection for a period of time?

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    But could the same results not have resulted from having an empty police car sitting at that intersection for a period of time?
    An empty cop car doesn't issue tickets.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    An empty cop car doesn't issue tickets.
    But the visceral reaction to seeing the profile of a marked police vehicle does cause people to slow down and follow all applicable traffic laws.

    Same result, but without the investment of installing a camera and without the inconvenience of issuing citations to citizens.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    But the visceral reaction to seeing the profile of a marked police vehicle does cause people to slow down and follow all applicable traffic laws.

    Same result, but without the investment of installing a camera and without the inconvenience of issuing citations to citizens.
    Investment? Because cars are notable for being so much cheaper than cameras...
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Investment? Because cars are notable for being so much cheaper than cameras...
    If they were simply mounting a GoPro on the light that might be cheap, but many of those fancy intersection cameras cost more than your typical police vehicle ($50,000+).

    Cool thing about a police car though, it is multifunctional and can be used for any number of things. . . aside from issuing citations at an intersection.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    But the visceral reaction to seeing the profile of a marked police vehicle does cause people to slow down and follow all applicable traffic laws.
    Only where that one car is, and once they pass the police car they go right back to speeding and running red lights. Without real consequences, people will do what they want on the road. That has resulted in far too many fatal accidents and dead pedestrians, so I don't have any problems with these cameras at all.

    Same result, but without the investment of installing a camera and without the inconvenience of issuing citations to citizens.
    Cameras cost a hell of a lot less than Crown Vics. I don't see how "inconvenience" is a viable argument, either. The reason we have these cameras is because people were dying due to people speeding, running red lights, and driving drunk. I'm perfectly fine with reckless, stupid drivers being "inconvenienced" by the enforcement of traffic laws.
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