View Poll Results: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

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  • All cameras should be abolished

    50 49.50%
  • Abolish red light cameras only

    5 4.95%
  • Abolish speeding cameras only

    7 6.93%
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    28 27.72%
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Have you read the Fifth through Seventh Amendments? Do you understand them? Do you understand that they intend to put on government's power to deprive a citizen of life, liberty, or property on the basis of having been accused of breaking the law?

    The Constitution is the highest law of the land. Should government have the authority to violate this law under the pretext of upholding the law?
    You can go to court. You can contest. Many do. I saw the video, saw what I had done. Paid my fine and learned from my mistake. If I did not agree with the ticket, I would have gone to court. I was not deprived .

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Why not show how that is certainly possible with redlight camera systems rather than just continuously cite a slogan about what is now for some their computer-gods?

    Slamming on the brakes is how to "comply with the law." Of course, all vehicles do not stop at the same rate.
    If the time of a yellow to red and then picture does not allow for a safe stopping distance, then they are in violation. Problem is with people texting and not paying attention in other ways...

    I have never seen too short of yellows. Will you document one for us please.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I don't have a link handy, but I have read that in some jurisdictions that some people have gotten red-light tickets for making a right turn on red... and which is legal in those jurisdictions... but still couldn't get the ticket dismissed because the driver's word alone wasn't good enough.

    So much for "why don't you just comply with the law".
    My understanding is that these are cases where they didn't come to a full stop first, as required by law.

    Or, was there a sign that said "Right turn permitted without stopping?"

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    My understanding is that these are cases where they didn't come to a full stop first, as required by law.

    Or, was there a sign that said "Right turn permitted without stopping?"
    Please explain how a still camera would know and show the difference between a full stop and a "rolling stop".
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Speed Cameras To Begin Issuing First Tickets Today.
    October 16, 2013 7:28 AM

    ...Starting at 6 a.m. Wednesday, drivers will get only one warning if one of the cameras catches them speeding. After that, its a ticket.The first tickets, however, will be sent only to those driving 10 mph over the limit, or faster. The city will gradually lower the ticket threshold, and eventually ticket anyone going 6 mph over the limit, or faster. Fines for going 6 to 10 mph over the limit would be $35. Fines for going 11 mph over the limit or faster would be $100.....

    Speed Cameras To Begin Issuing First Tickets Today CBS Chicago
    How Do Automated Speed Cameras Work?



    As they approach a automated speed enforcement (ASE) camera detection zone, drivers will see photo enforcement signs indicating the posted speed limit, the safety zone type, the hours of camera operation.

    The camera system uses a 3D tracking radar, high-resolution digital camera and high-definition video camera. The 3D radar identifies any vehicle traveling faster than the posted speed limit and triggers both the camera and the video, which caputure the event.

    The first image shows the vehicle driving in excess of the speed limt. The second image shows the distance and time the vehicle has traveled. The license plate is taken from a close-up of one of the images. Addiitonal data collected includes the time, date, posted speed limit, vehicle speed, location, lane and direction of travel. A high-definition video clip of the event is provided as evidence.

    City of Chicago :: How Do Automated Speed Cameras Work?
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Due process of law.

    See the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh Amendments to the Constitution.
    No one said you can not get a trial, why do you think you can not?? If you want a jury trial for a non jailable offense, you may be out of luck (state specific), in Ohio, no, but you can always have a bench trial.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Please explain how a still camera would know and show the difference between a full stop and a "rolling stop".
    It all depends on how the sensor system works, and programming.

    Camera technology and programming have been capable of doing such things for almost 2 decades.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    If the time of a yellow to red and then picture does not allow for a safe stopping distance, then they are in violation. Problem is with people texting and not paying attention in other ways...

    I have never seen too short of yellows. Will you document one for us please.
    I understand their are, but I have not encountered them as well.

    But if there are short yellows, take video, and tell it too the judge.

    Realistically though, people should not be following so closely that a quick stop will cause a crash. I do agree the distracted issue is huge, combining that with tailgating is the bigger issue - rather than widespread short yellows.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I understand their are, but I have not encountered them as well.

    But if there are short yellows, take video, and tell it too the judge.

    Realistically though, people should not be following so closely that a quick stop will cause a crash. I do agree the distracted issue is huge, combining that with tailgating is the bigger issue - rather than widespread short yellows.
    And I'm all for scaring people strait, since they seem to have sense knocked into them somehow.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Once I was gonna run a late yellow as I was following the car ahead of me. Well, the guy decides to try and stop even though that was impossible, and then he guns it and takes off. I was left slamming on the breaks and stopping in the middle of the intersection. I had to get it in gear quick and go. There was a cop going the other way who stopped and I assumed he was gonna get me. He just looked at me and watched me drive off.
    A redlight camera would have ticketed you.

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