View Poll Results: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

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  • All cameras should be abolished

    50 49.50%
  • Abolish red light cameras only

    5 4.95%
  • Abolish speeding cameras only

    7 6.93%
  • Abolish other types of cameras only (specify)

    0 0%
  • Allow all cameras to remain in use

    28 27.72%
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    No one yet has explained how a person can avoid a redlight ticket with certainty given you have no control over any other vehicles in front of or around you, nor any control over pedestrians or animals. Such intersections also post no signs of how long the yellow lasts or have any stop-watch display show how much time is left.
    Well if avoiding the pink elephant in the road made you run the red light, show the video to the judge.

    Sometimes I feel like I am the only person who got a red light ticket that deserved it. I got the notice, logged on and saw the video, said oh hell. Paid my fine and was more observant after that.

    If you do not tailgate the person in front of you, when they properly decide not to speed up at the end of the yellow, you should not rear end them at that time.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    No one yet has explained how a person can avoid a redlight ticket with certainty given you have no control over any other vehicles in front of or around you, nor any control over pedestrians or animals. Such intersections also post no signs of how long the yellow lasts or have any stop-watch display show how much time is left.
    Once I was gonna run a late yellow as I was following the car ahead of me. Well, the guy decides to try and stop even though that was impossible, and then he guns it and takes off. I was left slamming on the breaks and stopping in the middle of the intersection. I had to get it in gear quick and go. There was a cop going the other way who stopped and I assumed he was gonna get me. He just looked at me and watched me drive off.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Well if avoiding the pink elephant in the road made you run the red light, show the video to the judge.

    Sometimes I feel like I am the only person who got a red light ticket that deserved it. I got the notice, logged on and saw the video, said oh hell. Paid my fine and was more observant after that.

    If you do not tailgate the person in front of you, when they properly decide not to speed up at the end of the yellow, you should not rear end them at that time.
    :Guilty unless proven innocent" is a growing viewpoint.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    :Guilty unless proven innocent" is a growing viewpoint.
    It is disturbing to me that that point-of-view is as prominent as it is.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    :Guilty unless proven innocent" is a growing viewpoint.
    So what you want is a court trial for every episode?

    Isn't it just easier to pay attention and not run the red light?

    Like I said, am I the only person who got one of those tickets and actually says "crap, I did it" and learn from my mistakes.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Easy way to avoid tickets given because of traffic cameras. Don't break the law.
    Most of these accidents involve people who aren't braking the law.

    The timer for yellow is reduced, you can't stop in time safly, so you hit the brakes hard to avoid the camera and get rear ended.

    That's the problem.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Isn't it just easier to pay attention and not run the red light?
    It takes more than 3 seconds of yellow to come to a stop in a 35-45mph zone. You have to hit your brakes hard, and that's when the accident happens.

    It has nothing to do with paying attention. It has to do with safe stopping distances.

    How long a yellow light is on should be determined by the stopping distance of the heaviest vehical that road is rated for traveling at the legal speed limit.
    Last edited by Jerry; 10-21-13 at 01:11 AM.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    So what you want is a court trial for every episode?
    Due process of law.

    See the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh Amendments to the Constitution.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Due process of law.

    See the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh Amendments to the Constitution.
    So you want a court trial for every ticket.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    So you want a court trial for every ticket.
    Have you read the Fifth through Seventh Amendments? Do you understand them? Do you understand the burden that they intend to put on government's power to deprive a citizen of life, liberty, or property on the basis of having been accused of breaking the law?

    The Constitution is the highest law of the land. Should government have the authority to violate this law under the pretext of upholding the law?
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