View Poll Results: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

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  • All cameras should be abolished

    50 49.50%
  • Abolish red light cameras only

    5 4.95%
  • Abolish speeding cameras only

    7 6.93%
  • Abolish other types of cameras only (specify)

    0 0%
  • Allow all cameras to remain in use

    28 27.72%
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    yeah I can prevent a car 10 units in front of me from stopping, what an asinine comment
    What the heck does "10 units in front of me" even mean? Ten feet? Ten meters? Ten yards?
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I drive 70k plus miles per year, you? I have been to 46 states this year, you?
    I dated a guy for a few months that was on the road a lot. He racked up speeding tickets like crazy. When every I was in the car with him he was a careful lawful driver. I asked him what the difference was. He said when he was with me, he was never in a hurry. When he was working, fast driving meant money through sales. It was worth it to him to pay the tickets and the increased insurance and continue his current profitable habits.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    What the heck does "10 units in front of me" even mean? Ten feet? Ten meters? Ten yards?
    10 cars

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I dated a guy for a few months that was on the road a lot. He racked up speeding tickets like crazy. When every I was in the car with him he was a careful lawful driver. I asked him what the difference was. He said when he was with me, he was never in a hurry. When he was working, fast driving meant money through sales. It was worth it to him to pay the tickets and the increased insurance and continue his current profitable habits.
    I bought an Escort Redline, haven't had a ticket in 3 years now.


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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    duh, I did pay the ticket that wasn't the point.
    You got a ticket, then paid it. What is your point? You were 8 miles over. That will get you a ticket by a cop just as easily.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    It varies from state to state I suppose. She's a special case, so to speak, or so it seems.

    Did you FEEL like a felon while doing 160?

    When I was doing 140, it felt great but also was scary - scary at the prospect of getting caught. Yes, now speeding more than 20 over is treated like you are worse than a serial burglar or assailant. But it also is up to the officer's discretion whether or not to do anything about it.
    I felt like an idiot when we were going that fast but it was fun. Very few cars on the freeway and you just fly past them like they aren't even moving...

    There are people who buy vintage cars to avoid those black boxes. I do think requiring all cars to have the ability to shut them down is going to be required for all new cars soon, and many already have it whether you know it or not.
    Yep. It is going to happen. Going old school is a way around that, I suppose, but I bet that to get registration they will start requiring proof of a black box on your '56 Bel Air.

    I do that alot myself!
    My problem is my overly large ego... what is your problem?
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    10 cars
    I thought the term was "10 lengths"... how would anybody know what "units" means?
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I thought the term was "10 lengths"... how would anybody know what "units" means?
    GM calls them sales units, so does Ford, Chrysler, etc. you are forgiven

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    GM calls them sales units, so does Ford, Chrysler, etc. you are forgiven
    I thought you were talking about distances... my bad. Yes, I know that the cars are referred to as units.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Running a red light doesn't potentially endanger anyone?



    Why should anyone take anything you say about this matter seriously when you make such an egregious comment? You have just denied basic reality, sir. You are spreading anti-safety propaganda that does not deserve to be respected. But it does deserve to be called out. Because your attitudes are precisely what enable road rage and dangerous driving, which cost thousands of American lives every year.

    I strongly question whether you value the sanctity of human life. I strongly question whether you show basic respect towards your fellow humans.

    Watch this video.



    Anybody who watches that video from start to finish and says, with a straight face, that egregious instances of red light running are not inherently dangerous, is either trolling or pathologically lying.
    No, you are wrong. Of itself, running a redlight endangers no one. Running a redlight is dangerous when it endangers people. The videos you present no more prove your point than if I put of videos of criminals who are breathing, claiming it proves that breathing endangers people.

    Not one accident in those videos would have been avoided by a redlight camera. Zero. Some even show vehicles plowing into the back of other vehicles, having nothing to do with traffic lights whatsoever.

    But, of course, you added the word "egregious" and then tried to attach that word to me. In short, your message lacks any intellectual integrity. I gave my own specific example of knowing running a redlight and commonly doing so as most people around here do.

    Of THE main intersection this city, it is impossible for a person who has just entered the intersection for a left turn (which is 90% of the traffic from that direction) to make it fully thru the light before it turns red unless they are driving like a GT1 race car.

    Of itself, running a redlight or stop sign endangers no one, nor does speeding, nor does firing a gun, nor does anything else that isn't done in a manner to endanger someone, whether legal or not. What is legal or not does not in any manner define what does and does not endanger people.

    But I know why you now are raging and flaming me. Because you don't want to answer the question of how can anyone avoid with certainty avoid being in an intersection when a light turns red given they can not control cars ahead of them and it illegal to just stop at a green light to wait for it to cycle so you are then the first car to go.

    You don't have an answer, do you? Nor to any of the other false charges by robo-computer cameras that don't exist with live police officers.

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